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| [11:10:54] | <paul121[m]> | <symbioquine[m]> "https://farmos.discourse.group/t..." <- nice write up and great overview of the pros/cons! I'm curious your thoughts on routers, you mentioned Mikrotik routerOS which I had not heard of. I was just trying to find some info about more "open" routers but was getting lost. I've worked with ubiquiti in the past but am curious if there is open source "management" or "controller" software that is comparable to what Ubiquiti offers |
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| [11:26:51] | <symbioquine[m]> | I don't know about open source management for Ubiquiti - that sounds interesting |
| [11:28:46] | <symbioquine[m]> | I have played with OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_router_firmware_projects) some. OpenWRT should easily be able to do what I'm doing in that tutorial... |
| [11:30:13] | <symbioquine[m]> | The main challenges I've run into is that I was either trying to run it on marginal older hardware which worked better with the original firmware, or trying to run it on fairly specialized wireless hardware and ended up missing p2p wifi capabilities that were only supported with the original firmware. |
| [11:31:32] | <symbioquine[m]> | I think that if you went shopping for hardware specifically as a main router/firewall to put something like OpenWRT or pfsense you'd be much happier than I was. |
| [11:31:47] | <symbioquine[m]> | * or pfsense on you'd be |
| [11:33:44] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Is Mikrotik open source, thought you had to pay tiered licenses depending on the functionality required? |
| [11:35:25] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I used Zeroshell in the past, but was using for load balancing and aggregation only. |
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| [11:35:46] | <symbioquine[m]> | As far as I can tell, not open source in general (https://mikrotik.com/software) except where they've intersected with GPL: https://github.com/robimarko/routeros-GPL |
| [11:39:29] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Had some Microtik Access points a few years ago for a wireless bridge, but replaced in more recent years with Ubiquiti. |
| [11:41:14] | <symbioquine[m]> | Yeah, most of my wifi gear is Ubiquiti/TP-Link, but my main routers are Mikrotik |
| [11:43:47] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I suppose most router OS's these days contain some open source code as they are built on Linux, but may have some proprietary code too, I think even ZeroShell is "mostly" opensource but I remember having to pay a once off fee for some functionality. |
| [11:45:01] | <symbioquine[m]> | I hadn't heard of that one until today |
| [11:45:55] | <FarmerEd[m]> | But its probably best for building once off dedicated appliances and doesn't have the advantages of an eco system like Ubiquiti has for management. |
| [11:47:08] | <symbioquine[m]> | It looks like the Zeroshell project may be defunct now |
| [11:50:02] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Ah May well be............ was an integral part of my setup before 4G became widespread here. |
| [11:55:11] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Actually just came across the router I was using for it this morning while tidying up the comms cab, been plugged out a long time but still there. I was trying to cut out any unnecessary power consumption and replaced some big old Cisco switches with dumb desktop types as the management functions were not being used. |
| [11:58:00] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Bit cooler in there now too. |
| [12:01:41] | <paul121[m]> | thanks symbioquine Farmer Ed , I have a few more things to look in to :D |
| [12:02:15] | <paul121[m]> | I did just order a ubiquiti access point. but trying to avoid the ubiquiti router |
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| [12:02:29] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Guess you shouldn't look too hard at my suggestion now |
| [12:04:15] | <paul121[m]> | They had that big security vulnerability/bad press awhile back. Turns out it wasn't as bad as a few popular individuals made it out to be |
| [12:04:36] | <paul121[m]> | I think I would be fine using their stuff without any cloud integrations (which is possible) |
| [12:04:46] | <paul121[m]> | but why not try and go one step further :P |
| [12:10:11] | <FarmerEd[m]> | PC-Engines ALIX was the hardware I used if that's any addition, I'm sure mine is fairly obsolete now but maybe there are more modern versions |
| [12:12:15] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Had an AMD Geode Processor, there is probably ARM based alternatives these days too. |
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