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| [08:44:01] | <Greg[m]> | MiriamNugent[m]: I kinda lost the thread because I didn't see it till later - but I did end up having to add to my quickforms that I built the ability to either a) specify the farm at the top of the form in a standard way or b) pre-assign the farm and thus avoid the in-form assignment by the user. This made sense because sometimes forms should 'know' the farm and not bug the user in assigning it, and sometimes the user needs to assign the |
| [08:44:01] | <Greg[m]> | farm as part of completing the form |
| [08:46:27] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: I'm throwing this convo into claude PS, I'll let you know it's perspective FWIW |
| [08:55:28] | <Greg[m]> | <Greg[m]> "I'm throwing this convo into..." <- Here's it's response. This is kind of what I figured... in the soil-health repo there is some code written that could get picked up to address this issue (see below). IMO I do... (full message at <https://matrix.org/oftc/media/v1/media/download/AdQpLHf7II2kOyd6ZpzNtB2-...) |
| [08:55:37] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: <---------------------- from claude <------------- |
| [08:56:18] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: re. budget - yes, we have budget for this. If we come to a general consensus on what to push, I can also code it based on what we decide here (and you all **should** bill for your time thinking about it and typing!!!). Either way is fine. |
| [09:00:06] | <Greg[m]> | barkerd427[m]: Hey sorry for the long delay on this, got behind then went on vacation!! |
| [09:00:06] | <Greg[m]> | Yes please! I'll try to get claude to respond here (my approval of course, or copy paste in) in case there's anything additionally useful there. I know that Buzz is trying to be something more like AI friendly, but I wish there was a more comfortable way to have AI interact here in Element... like... not a full on participant (otherwise it's an AI hive which will suck), but perspectives can be added like 'on the side'. I dunno, it just |
| [09:00:06] | <Greg[m]> | seems silly to copy paste sometimes. |
| [09:03:29] | <Greg[m]> | mstenta[m]: MIke, could you walk through this on a weekly call sometime? I'd love to hear more, ask questions, and get it better. I think in short, this quickform and plans stuff is a big package of work and I don't feel confident about my ability / path to hold it and when/how to push appropriately back to main, so I'd love to hear more about this. |
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| [09:06:46] | <FredtheFarmOSBot[m]> | barkerd427[m]: (Posting on Greg's behalf — Fred, Greg's assistant bot. His words below.)... (full message at <https://matrix.org/oftc/media/v1/media/download/AfMy09qp26JH6pCFEu_ykMsM...) |
| [09:22:43] | <Greg[m]> | aislinnpearson[m]: +1 to fosten come to the AI in Ag meeting if you can! |
| [09:23:19] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: But my response (now in thread cause I'm late to the party) is that AI is like microsoft word... 99% of us only need about 5% of it's functionality. Microsoft continues to add functionality for the 1% who need that level of detail, and for whole those functions are valuable... and that 1% drives all the development |
| [09:23:41] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: The difference is it too maybe 20 years to get to the functionality that covers 99% of use cases for writing documents. With AI... it's maybe 5 years. |
| [09:25:39] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: What I mean is, Claude Fable can do 99% of what you and I need, both professionally and personally... forever. And we'd never even need to update it, because it's a magic little matrix algebra plinko FPGA-esque math box. It's not like software, living on an an ever changing landscape of languages, frameworks, functions, etc. It's just a thing that will always work if you have a processor, which is amazing and crazy. |
| [09:27:14] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: So who's paying trillions for the last 1% of functionality? it's people competing for more who live in a zero sum game - wars competing for land, marketers competing for eyeballs, hacker/counter-hacker competing to live on the big scary public internet, etc. |
| [09:28:04] | <Greg[m]> | Greg[m]: We mostly got what we need - thank you China for your weights. |
| [09:28:47] | <Greg[m]> | * The difference is it that Word took about 20 years to get to the functionality that covers 99% of use cases for writing documents. With AI... it's maybe 5 years. |
| [09:34:41] | <Greg[m]> | <FredtheFarmOSBot[m]> "(Posting on Greg's behalf — Fred..." <- barkerd427: pinging, just so you know I responded |
| [09:47:03] | <Greg[m]> | mstenta[m]: Hey Mike - re. these two PRs... is there anything I should do or modify to help those along? At this point, given the discussion, what is the best course of action (I guess... for those two, but maybe also for or separately for future ones) |
| [09:48:55] | <mstenta[m]> | <Greg[m]> "MIke, could you walk through..." <- Hey! Having trouble following threads out of context here in Element, but yea happy to chat on dev call. |
| [09:50:24] | <mstenta[m]> | Greg[m]: Re: PRs... no it's just on me to review and merge them at this point. I have a 4.1.x list to work through. Hope to get back into it soon once the current outside projects settle a bit. :-) |