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| [12:49:29] | <mstenta> | svenn: so i think all we need to do is decide which layer(s) from the WMST should be included - which would be most useful |
| [12:50:04] | <kadaan> | Waht is WMST? |
| [12:50:05] | <mstenta> | if we can select just one, that would be easiest |
| [12:50:30] | <mstenta> | but i don't think there is a satellite imagery one available in that service... but maybe a topo would be nice? |
| [12:50:45] | <mstenta> | hi kadaan - i'm working with svenn on adding norwegian map layers to farmOS |
| [12:50:51] | <kadaan> | Nice! |
| [12:50:53] | <mstenta> | via Norway's national mapping authority |
| [12:51:04] | <mstenta> | they provide layers via a WMST url |
| [12:51:16] | <mstenta> | which is similar to WMS - and which openlayers can use |
| [12:51:16] | <kadaan> | Did you ever figure out the problems with the current mapping layers? |
| [12:51:32] | <kadaan> | I remember there is an openlayers issue. |
| [12:51:34] | <mstenta> | which problems? |
| [12:51:39] | <kadaan> | Let me find it. |
| [12:51:57] | <mstenta> | there are a bunch of minor things :-) |
| [12:51:59] | <kadaan> | Oh, one of them is related the zoom issue. |
| [12:52:05] | <kadaan> | I've experienced that. |
| [12:52:31] | <kadaan> | I ended up figuring out the same solution you suggested. Zoom out, re-draw, etc. |
| [12:52:34] | <mstenta> | oh... where the shapes seem to become disconnected from the satellite imagery when you zoom in and out? |
| [12:52:42] | <mstenta> | yea... that's a tricky one... and not fixed yet |
| [12:52:52] | <mstenta> | it is actually Google's fault, to some extentn |
| [12:53:14] | <mstenta> | basically, Google Maps has varying max-zooms from place to place |
| [12:53:18] | <kadaan> | Hehehe |
| [12:53:19] | <mstenta> | that in itself is fine... but... |
| [12:53:48] | <mstenta> | it doesn't provide a way for you to KNOW what the max is at a given point (at least I don't think) |
| [12:53:58] | <mstenta> | so with the farmOS Openlayers config, we have a fixed max zoom everywhere |
| [12:54:08] | <mstenta> | and in some places, that means you can zoom farther than Google can |
| [12:54:29] | <mstenta> | again... not a big problem... except that when you zoom past what google provides, the google maps api still returns imagery at the previous level! |
| [12:54:33] | <mstenta> | which is really dumb |
| [12:54:42] | <mstenta> | so for example |
| [12:54:51] | <mstenta> | if google's max zoom is 18 |
| [12:54:54] | <mstenta> | and you zoom to 19... |
| [12:54:55] | <kadaan> | It was this one: https://www.drupal.org/node/2542062 |
| [12:55:02] | <mstenta> | google will still show you the tiles at zoom 18 |
| [12:55:20] | <mstenta> | which messes everything up - because then you are drawing at zoom 19, on a background that is zoom 18 |
| [12:55:45] | <kadaan> | Totallly get it. |
| [12:55:53] | <mstenta> | oh ok - 2542062 is actually a different issue |
| [12:56:04] | <kadaan> | Was wondering how other peoiple who use openlayers work around this. |
| [12:56:16] | <mstenta> | with that one, we used to be able to toggle between topo map, satellite map, road map, and hybrid |
| [12:56:24] | <mstenta> | but now, if you enable more than one google maps, they all break :-( |
| [12:56:47] | <mstenta> | however, i think @Pol may have fixed that in the latest Openlayers version - i haven't had a chance to test it yet |
| [12:57:07] | <kadaan> | That would be great to test. If it is easy, I may take that on. |
| [12:57:19] | <mstenta> | sure! |
| [12:57:32] | <mstenta> | probably the easiest way to do it is: |
| [12:57:39] | <kadaan> | I need to figure out how to get my docker install to actually complete within a reasonable period of time. |
| [12:57:54] | <mstenta> | open up the .data/www/profiles/farm/modules/contrib/openlayers directory and run |
| [12:57:56] | <mstenta> | git init |
| [12:58:21] | <mstenta> | git remote add origin https://git.drupal.org/project/openlayers.git |
| [12:58:25] | <mstenta> | git fetch origin |
| [12:58:32] | <mstenta> | git checkout 7.x-3.x |
| [12:58:45] | <mstenta> | er... scratch that last one... it would instead be: |
| [12:58:47] | <mstenta> | git checkout -- . |
| [12:58:48] | <mstenta> | i think |
| [12:58:59] | <mstenta> | kadaan: oh yea... the volume issue |
| [12:59:02] | <kadaan> | Cool. Let me give that a try |
| [12:59:16] | <mstenta> | kadaan: i'm curious... could you test running docker in an Ubuntu VM? |
| [12:59:35] | <kadaan> | Regarding the Os X issue, I tried: https://github.com/IFSight/d4m-nfs |
| [12:59:42] | <mstenta> | kadaan: i know it's redundant and it would be nice NOT to use a VM AND docker... but i wonder if that would get around the Mac volume performance issue |
| [12:59:48] | <kadaan> | But I couldn't even get the vm to tart. |
| [12:59:57] | <mstenta> | hmm |
| [13:00:11] | <kadaan> | I was thinking about trying https://github.com/codekitchen/dinghy rather than docker4mac. |
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| [15:45:13] | <svenn> | mstenta: I think "topo2" or "norges_grunnkart" would be sane alternatives for map backgrounds. |
| [15:45:49] | <svenn> | best would be if I could choose at some point when I learn how to do these configurations in drupal/farmos |
| [15:46:34] | <svenn> | I have found that our aerial photos are password protected. |
| [15:47:53] | <svenn> | I need to learn how to get an account and what it will cost me as a private individual. |
| [15:51:44] | <svenn> | The ministry for agriculture maintains various map overlays which I would like to add at a later time. |
| [15:52:21] | <svenn> | For now I use qgis when trying to reverse engineer the links from their web app. |
| [15:53:06] | <svenn> | It is basically the same programmers delivering the solutions provided by the government, and they tend to re-use their own code. |
| [15:53:55] | <svenn> | and openlayers2 and openlayers3 :) |
| [16:05:14] | <mstenta> | svenn: hi! |
| [16:05:26] | <mstenta> | ok, i'll give the topo2 and norgres_grunnkart layers a try |
| [16:05:49] | <mstenta> | oh actually, norgres_grunnkar was the screenshot i sent you |
| [16:05:50] | <mstenta> | so that's working |
| [16:06:11] | <svenn> | nice. |
| [16:06:42] | <mstenta> | svenn: so now i just need to figure out the "best" way to package it up |
| [16:06:55] | <svenn> | I have no hurry |
| [16:07:07] | <mstenta> | in the bigger scope, i think i want to generalize how the map layers are being managed |
| [16:07:16] | <mstenta> | it could be better |
| [16:07:38] | <svenn> | I guess that other users with access to wmts in their country would be very happy |
| [16:07:38] | <mstenta> | the openlayers module provides some nice ways of assembling maps from different sources, layers, components, etc |
| [16:07:45] | <mstenta> | but i'm really pushing it to the limits with farmOS |
| [16:08:07] | <mstenta> | i want to make sure it is flexible |
| [16:08:39] | <mstenta> | right now, the test i did with the kartverkat layers is just overridding the defaults |
| [16:08:48] | <svenn> | I understand. I don't expect farmos to become qgis-online |
| [16:08:55] | <mstenta> | but it would be better if they worked together |
| [16:09:03] | <mstenta> | haha well not yet... |
| [16:09:04] | <mstenta> | ;-) |
| [16:11:32] | <svenn> | Most important stuff are the real farming things, but it is amazing how turn-off the inaccuracy in google maps is when putting kml from a gps on top of it |
| [16:12:08] | <svenn> | about 13m off is really really bad |
| [16:13:45] | <mstenta> | yea it is |
| [16:13:49] | <mstenta> | i wonder if google is aware of that |
| [16:14:19] | <svenn> | I am planning my new heating system with qgis and librecad/qcad on top of the norges_grunnkart. I really miss a properly aligned aerial photo sometimes |
| [16:15:42] | <svenn> | I don't know if this is some kind of difference between WGS84 and WUREF89 |
| [16:15:49] | <svenn> | EUREF89 |
| [16:16:39] | <svenn> | I have tried to understand the difference between the various projections, but I only get a headache. |
| [16:20:10] | <svenn> | well, a new week is starting, and we have adjusted for daylight saving, so I guess it will be a week of body-clock adjustment |
| [16:20:37] | <svenn> | I hate daylight saving |
| [16:21:29] | <mstenta> | i was just saying that to my wife |
| [16:21:39] | <mstenta> | every 6 months i get confused |
| [16:22:04] | <mstenta> | svenn: what does Grunnkart translate to? |
| [16:22:18] | <mstenta> | google doesn't know https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/Norges%20Grunnkart |
| [16:22:37] | <svenn> | norwegian basic map |
| [16:22:59] | <mstenta> | thanks |
| [16:24:34] | <svenn> | something like "the mother of all maps" |
| [16:25:13] | <svenn> | so it is not basic in the "simple" sense, maybe more "basis". |
| [16:25:47] | <svenn> | but I don't know the exact meaning of the english words I use. You know, the "legal" meaning of a word. |
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| [16:39:13] | <mstenta> | hi kadaan |
| [16:39:18] | <kadaan> | Hey |
| [16:39:18] | <farmBOT> | hello |
| [16:39:42] | <mstenta> | were you able to build a local docker container? i rebuilt the image on docker hub after it had failed |
| [16:40:49] | <kadaan> | I'm still trying, but working on my farm presentation with my wife. |
| [16:45:08] | <mstenta> | cool - let me know if you still have trouble |
| [16:45:10] | <mstenta> | what is the presentation? |
| [16:47:45] | <mstenta> | svenn: i'm assembling a module right now |
| [16:47:49] | <mstenta> | i'll send you a link shortly |
| [17:07:17] | <mstenta> | svenn: https://github.com/farmOS/farm_map_kartverket |
| [17:07:27] | <mstenta> | give that a try |
| [17:07:56] | <mstenta> | it adds both the norgres_grunnkar and topo2 layers |
| [17:11:15] | <mstenta> | gonna sign off for a bit - family time |
| [17:11:49] | <mstenta> | svenn: download that module and put it in sites/all/modules |
| [17:12:04] | <mstenta> | enable it at [url]/admin/modules |
| [17:12:16] | <mstenta> | let me know how it works! |
| [17:18:32] | <kadaan> | We are presenting our starting farm plan for the Cornell BF101 class. |
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