| [20:06:57] | <mstenta> | svenn: i got it! |
| [20:06:58] | <mstenta> | http://imgur.com/a/NBAtJ |
| [20:07:02] | <mstenta> | a start at least... |
| [20:07:32] | <mstenta> | (notice the little square in that map... that's your polygon!) |
| [20:08:15] | <mstenta> | i used the wmts_mercator example from https://github.com/kartverket/example-clients/blob/master/openlayers3/wm... |
| [20:08:37] | <mstenta> | that uses the "norges_grunnkart" layer |
| [20:08:43] | <mstenta> | (what does that translate to?) |
| [20:11:36] | <mstenta> | svenn: also i found this http://status.kartverket.no/tjenester/openwms.py? |
| [20:11:47] | <mstenta> | do any of those look like they might be satellite images? |
| [20:12:55] | <mstenta> | i think we are on our way to making a farmOS module for the Norwegian Mapping Authority :-) |
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| [01:44:29] | <kadaan> | @mstenta FYI, I'm having an issue when trying to start up farmOS in docker with the latest. |
| [01:44:29] | <farmBOT> | kadaan: 6 days 3 hours ago <mstenta> tell kadaan I merged your commits that change the area reference fields into select lists. Thanks again! Also FYI: it looks like your drupal.org user is not set up with the same email address as your Github user, so the commits did not get attributed to your user in drupal.org (just to "Joel Baranick"). :-( Might want to sync those so that future commits are counted in your drupal.org profile. |
| [01:48:35] | <kadaan> | I deleted the .data folder, destroyed the docker containers, and then ran docker-compose up. |
| [01:48:58] | <kadaan> | What I get is: |
| [01:48:59] | <kadaan> | ```www_1 | specific errors. |
| [01:48:59] | <kadaan> | www_1 | chown: cannot access '/var/www/html/sites': No such file or directory |
| [01:48:59] | <kadaan> | farmos_www_1 exited with code 1``` |
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| [16:43:41] | <rdruta> | hi msenta |
| [17:15:04] | <mstenta> | hi rdruta |
| [17:16:49] | <rdruta> | I subscribed to 30 days trial |
| [17:17:12] | <rdruta> | one question: how to add kml / gpx / shp files for areas? |
| [17:18:33] | <mstenta> | rdruta: cool! |
| [17:18:58] | <mstenta> | rdruta: right now Farmier trials not have the ability to upload files |
| [17:19:05] | <mstenta> | do* not |
| [17:19:32] | <mstenta> | the file storage system on Farmier is still in the works - but i'm very close to rolling it out - hopefully in the next few weeks! |
| [17:20:14] | <rdruta> | good! because i'm interested in your product and hosting if there is the possibility to import GIS files |
| [17:20:26] | <mstenta> | rdruta: yes definitely! |
| [17:20:49] | <rdruta> | so at this moment the only possibility is to draw the parcel? |
| [17:21:17] | <mstenta> | file storage will priced based on usage - gigabytes per month... but it will be very cheap |
| [17:21:40] | <mstenta> | yea, right now you can add shapes by drawing... |
| [17:21:51] | <mstenta> | you can also copy and paste WKT data into the "data" field below the map |
| [17:22:05] | <rdruta> | I'm watching you video and (30:32) you are speaking about exporting from Google Maps |
| [17:22:08] | <rdruta> | of kml file |
| [17:22:40] | <mstenta> | yes! so I should be more specific... farmOS already has the capabilities for file uploads and KML imports |
| [17:22:59] | <mstenta> | but they are disabled in the sites that are hosted on Farmier at the moment... just until I get the file storage hosting all figured out |
| [17:24:19] | <mstenta> | in the meantime, you could try this: http://geospatialconversions.azurewebsites.net/ |
| [17:24:30] | <mstenta> | try pasting KML into there... it will convert it to WKT |
| [17:24:38] | <mstenta> | WKT can be pasted in the "data" field below the map |
| [17:24:45] | <rdruta> | perfect! |
| [17:24:49] | <rdruta> | thank you! |
| [17:25:01] | <mstenta> | let me know if that works! hopefully |
| [17:25:10] | <rdruta> | I'm very excited to see how import of files will work |
| [17:25:30] | <mstenta> | i have a video of it... one sec... |
| [17:25:33] | <rdruta> | a lot of my clients could be interested |
| [17:25:54] | <rdruta> | we are selling GPS systems for agriculture |
| [17:26:00] | <mstenta> | https://twitter.com/getfarmier/status/790906265392275460 |
| [17:26:18] | <mstenta> | that's a quick screen recording of the kml import |
| [17:26:25] | <rdruta> | and the outputs are files (gpx, shp, kml) |
| [17:26:26] | <mstenta> | it's the same one from my talk |
| [17:26:31] | <mstenta> | cool! |
| [17:26:37] | <mstenta> | right now farmOS can only do KML |
| [17:26:44] | <mstenta> | but it would be great to add gpx and shp |
| [17:27:01] | <rdruta> | no problems, cause there is the possibility to convert from SH or GPX to KML |
| [17:27:22] | <mstenta> | oh ok great |
| [17:28:51] | <rdruta> | maybe we can work toghether, to translate farmos in French and Romanian, so my clients could be your clients ;) |
| [17:29:22] | <mstenta> | rdruta: that would be great! we already have some plans to begin a translation intiative! |
| [17:29:33] | <mstenta> | can i send you my email address in a private message? |
| [17:29:50] | <mstenta> | or.. well.. you probably already have it if you signed up for a free trial |
| [17:29:50] | <rdruta> | of course |
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| [17:30:18] | <mstenta> | send me an email sometime - i would love to talk about potential collaborations |
| [17:30:31] | <rdruta> | ok, perfect! |
| [17:30:43] | <mstenta> | i have been thinking about partnering Farmier with more organizations that provide agricultural services |
| [17:31:05] | <mstenta> | and it would be great to coordinate on French and Romanian translations! |
| [17:31:07] | <rdruta> | it's a good way to promote your product |
| [17:31:19] | <mstenta> | agreed! and grow the community |
| [17:31:36] | <rdruta> | :) of course |
| [17:34:26] | <rdruta> | I just wrote you a message |
| [17:34:48] | <mstenta> | great! |
| [17:34:53] | <rdruta> | please keep me posted about the evolution of KML import |
| [17:34:56] | <mstenta> | i will reply soon! |
| [17:34:58] | <mstenta> | i will! |
| [17:35:09] | <rdruta> | so we can make some tests |
| [17:35:13] | <mstenta> | i must run - i just finished some fall garden prep and now i need to clean up for dinner with family |
| [17:35:23] | <mstenta> | definitely! i will be in touch soon! |
| [17:35:39] | <mstenta> | talk to you soon! |
| [17:48:38] | <svenn> | wonder what gps system rdruta is selling. |
| [17:58:26] | <rdruta> | teejet, leica /hexagon, stonex,.... |
| [17:58:39] | <rdruta> | manual guiding, autoguiding, area measuring |
| [17:58:43] | <svenn> | really serious stuff |
| [17:58:56] | <svenn> | RTK, I guess. |
| [17:59:04] | <rdruta> | RTK too |
| [17:59:45] | <svenn> | and you are probably doing survey grade GIS sampling in the fields? |
| [18:01:22] | <svenn> | mstenta: I guess rdruta will be interested in the wmts efforts we do on norwegian maps for his french and romanian customers |
| [18:02:47] | <svenn> | And, actually, I am also interested in having the possibility to have multiple vector layers in farmos |
| [18:03:18] | <svenn> | but it is a future feature request. |
| [18:04:21] | <rdruta> | I would be interested to know more about wmts |
| [18:04:43] | <svenn> | rdruta: you know qgis? |
| [18:04:50] | <rdruta> | yep |
| [18:05:11] | <svenn> | you can add vector layer from wmts in there |
| [18:05:24] | <rdruta> | ok |
| [18:05:29] | <svenn> | if your national mapping service offer this |
| [18:05:52] | <rdruta> | do you have an example of file in qgis format so I can see better |
| [18:06:15] | <svenn> | wait a second |
| [18:06:49] | <rdruta> | maybe you can send me on may email address: radu.viadeo@gmail.com |
| [18:08:10] | <svenn> | yes, I can |
| [18:08:22] | <svenn> | we do need to keep mstenta in the loop too |
| [18:08:59] | <rdruta> | actually I'm very interested in anything that can help my clients to improve their work. The demand in Europe is growing for new applications and services (GIS for agriculture) |
| [18:09:18] | <rdruta> | and I'm very curios to share information with others |
| [18:09:53] | <svenn> | http://sdmdataaccess.nrcs.usda.gov/Spatial/SDM.wms |
| [18:10:20] | <svenn> | this is a link from mstenta |
| [18:10:51] | <svenn> | we were discussing wmts last night as he was trying to integrate norwegian maps into farmos |
| [18:12:13] | <svenn> | I am using a gps system called farmnavigator from german satconsystem |
| [18:12:28] | <svenn> | because I have old tractors |
| [18:12:50] | <svenn> | that export into kmz which i unpack into kml and upload to farmos |
| [18:14:38] | <rdruta> | perfect! |
| [18:14:53] | <svenn> | there is actually a picture of one of my fields in the video |
| [18:14:59] | <rdruta> | are you from Norway? |
| [18:15:02] | <svenn> | yes |
| [18:16:17] | <svenn> | just curious: try this link http://bjerkem.de/farmos/log/3 |
| [18:16:21] | <rdruta> | are you using any other software for managing fields? |
| [18:16:41] | <rdruta> | Access denied You are not authorized to access this page. |
| [18:16:46] | <svenn> | I was using efarmer until their android app went pay |
| [18:16:53] | <svenn> | wait |
| [18:17:12] | <svenn> | http://bjerkem.de/farmos/user |
| [18:17:25] | <svenn> | user guest password Guest1234 |
| [18:18:05] | <svenn> | I loved the connection between their efarmpilot and the efarm web-app |
| [18:18:31] | <rdruta> | Have you been satisfied with efarmer application? Area measuring, Guiding? |
| [18:18:36] | <svenn> | I built my own bluetooth gps module to have external antenna |
| [18:18:43] | <rdruta> | cause I think to translate it in Romania |
| [18:19:12] | <svenn> | I was not satisfied with being cut out of the free beta program |
| [18:19:22] | <svenn> | even if I had given them a lot of feedback |
| [18:19:43] | <rdruta> | normally with Bluetooth GPS you can connect easily to external antenna |
| [18:20:28] | <svenn> | in later versions of efarmpilot too? |
| [18:22:06] | <rdruta> | not sure, I tried one but i'm not sure if it is the last |
| [18:22:22] | <svenn> | I realize that efarmpilot app on my tablet has changed to efarmer demo |
| [18:22:30] | <rdruta> | I see that you made the import of gps files on your farmos |
| [18:22:41] | <svenn> | yes, as kml |
| [18:22:52] | <rdruta> | so you have the option to import already? |
| [18:23:03] | <svenn> | I can upload them because I run my own version of farmos |
| [18:23:11] | <rdruta> | cause in trial version I don't have this possibility |
| [18:23:11] | <svenn> | on a hosted service |
| [18:23:18] | <rdruta> | ok |
| [18:23:36] | <svenn> | the trial version is running on mstentas server, my farmos is running on my server |
| [18:23:55] | <rdruta> | do you have 3 minutes to show me via Teamviewer how to install on my own server? |
| [18:24:10] | <rdruta> | I tried, but something is wrong |
| [18:25:03] | <svenn> | It is some time back that I installed the server, so I am not sure I remember that well |
| [18:25:27] | <svenn> | I am on linux, so I don't know how to connect to teamviewer |
| [18:25:45] | <rdruta> | ok |
| [18:29:08] | <svenn> | when you zoom in on the field borders in that gps track from my sprayer |
| [18:29:23] | <svenn> | you will see that google maps is not good for this kind of application |
| [18:30:05] | <svenn> | you will see it even better when you zoom in on the farm overview |
| [18:30:52] | <rdruta> | yep, there's sometimes small differences |
| [18:30:53] | <svenn> | the borders are taken from my gps as kml, and they are very accurate because I use an SF300 antenna |
| [18:31:40] | <svenn> | I think it is somethink like 13m difference between google maps and reality here at my farm |
| [18:32:00] | <rdruta> | waw, too much |
| [18:33:06] | <svenn> | that is why I nag on mstenta to integrate more wmts servers |
| [18:34:02] | <svenn> | then the map service is delivered by someone who is more national |
| [18:34:11] | <rdruta> | mstena is doing a good job |
| [18:34:43] | <svenn> | yeah, I need a replacement for efarmer, and farmos is the best I have found so far |
| [18:35:00] | <rdruta> | :) |
| [18:35:03] | <svenn> | I don't trust those ukrainians |
| [18:35:29] | <rdruta> | I think they are russians ;) |
| [18:36:18] | <rdruta> | how many hectars do you work in Norway? |
| [18:36:33] | <svenn> | 23 |
| [18:37:01] | <svenn> | I think they are ukrainians. only ukrainian flag on languages, no russian :) |
| [18:38:27] | <rdruta> | small explotation but using GIS systems. I would like to have in Romania farms like this interested in knew technologies. Sometimes it's difficult to convince even farmers with 1000 hectars |
| [18:39:39] | <svenn> | we are very interested in technology in norwegian farming |
| [18:39:55] | <rdruta> | and the eFarmer Navi was good? did you try that? |
| [18:40:19] | <svenn> | I think the efarmer parallell driving was bad when I used it |
| [18:40:26] | <svenn> | I only used it as a logger |
| [18:40:32] | <rdruta> | ok |
| [18:40:35] | <svenn> | when plowing, to see how accurate it is |
| [18:40:46] | <svenn> | It is bad with a regular GPS |
| [18:41:03] | <rdruta> | cause I'm looking to a low cost solution, for really small farmer who doesnt big budgets |
| [18:41:30] | <rdruta> | even when you use external dGPS/Glonass receiver? |
| [18:41:31] | <svenn> | look at farmnavigator from satconsystems.de. |
| [18:42:02] | <svenn> | I was getting BT on my SF300, but then the external BT was disabled in efarmpilot |
| [18:42:24] | <svenn> | the G7 from satcon has romanian language, I think, already |
| [18:43:10] | <rdruta> | G7 is even more expensive than Matrix 570 PRO GS (TeeJet) or TI7 (Leica/Hexagon) |
| [18:44:23] | <svenn> | ok, then it is no good |
| [18:44:33] | <rdruta> | Ok swenn. It was a pleasure to talk to you. |
| [18:44:38] | <svenn> | I work on my own cheap rtk, but it is not cheap |
| [18:44:39] | <rdruta> | I'll go to sleep |
| [18:44:49] | <rdruta> | keep in touch |
| [18:44:52] | <svenn> | I am upgrading my efarmer now, see you |
| [18:45:16] | <rdruta> | if you can send me the qgis file about you talked to me, |
| [18:45:20] | <rdruta> | thanks in advance |
| [18:45:31] | <rdruta> | have a nice week end! |
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