| [19:00:30] | <andygraybeal> | i'm not in charge of it, but it would be cool if you could present at OEFAA here in ohio :) |
| [19:00:40] | <andygraybeal> | OFFEA or whatever it is |
| [19:13:23] | <mstenta> | what's that? |
| [19:14:05] | <mstenta> | (and yea, I love my atmospis :-) ... need to give those some love soon too) |
| [19:14:34] | <mstenta> | rjsteinert has been doing a lot of work with sensors... his project is called Fido |
| [19:15:06] | <mstenta> | http://farmhack.net/tools/fido-temperature-alarm-sends-text-messages |
| [19:15:17] | <mstenta> | i really want to check that out soon |
| [19:15:26] | <mstenta> | i made atmospi before i knew about Fido |
| [19:51:38] | <andygraybeal> | yea, i checked out Fido, i'm not a big fan because it uses the cellular network |
| [19:51:49] | <andygraybeal> | cell towers are sparse around this area |
| [19:52:09] | <andygraybeal> | the last farm i worked at had no coverage |
| [19:53:17] | <andygraybeal> | ah who is this bruce guy, he seems helpful :) |
| [19:53:20] | <andygraybeal> | does he use irc? |
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| [20:20:08] | <mstenta> | Bruce Dawson - he's been very helpful yes! |
| [20:20:26] | <mstenta> | he has built a system for his cattle operation that is along the same lines as FarmOS |
| [20:20:29] | <mstenta> | he built it in Drupal |
| [20:21:33] | <mstenta> | but it isn't using any custom modules, so just stock drupal capabilities |
| [20:22:15] | <mstenta> | so he's been providing a lot of good feedback about the things he's learned... and i'm hoping he'll consider helping out and maybe transition his site to farmos too |
| [20:22:42] | <andygraybeal> | that sounds very awesome |
| [20:23:09] | <andygraybeal> | yes, i can't wait to use farmos with this rabbit and quail adventure in the spring (if we get funding from SARE) |
| [20:25:52] | <mstenta> | that would be awesome! |
| [20:26:12] | <mstenta> | i'd be happy to help you think through the design, and show you how to build a Feature module |
| [20:26:33] | <mstenta> | then you'd be a farmos contributor! |
| [20:26:38] | <mstenta> | :-) |
| [20:27:14] | <mstenta> | although you already are, from my perspective... participating in IRC and being part of the discussion is so great! thanks again! :-) |
| [20:27:34] | <andygraybeal> | haha your welcome. i do want to learn more and be more helpful. |
| [20:27:55] | <andygraybeal> | i get down on myself, and i'm getting older :) |
| [20:28:16] | <andygraybeal> | i'll be 40 soon... i have no job.. accept for random friends just hooking me up with things. |
| [20:31:24] | <andygraybeal> | that is very cool there is another farmer out there programming stuff :) |
| [20:31:49] | <andygraybeal> | that's why i was so excited i found the Cropplanning application. |
| [20:58:23] | <andygraybeal> | yea, the big farm i was at, they needed inventory of the boxes, plastic baggies, twisty ties, omg everything. every time we needed something we had to call up to the house and talk to the wifey and she was kind of gripy about it.. she was always like.. we're out of boxes again? i just ordered boxes... etc. |
| [20:58:49] | <andygraybeal> | have you looked at openerp or oodo as it is now? |
| [20:59:13] | <andygraybeal> | that applications seems so perfect for so many things. |
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| [15:24:10] | <andygraybeal> | mstenta, afternoon |
| [15:24:15] | <mstenta> | hi andygraybeal |
| [15:25:17] | <andygraybeal> | you think i could cobble together a package (raspberry pi, networking infrastructure, sensor network - linked up to farmier cloud) of the stuff your doing and peddle my services to farmers? |
| [15:25:44] | <andygraybeal> | i'm sure you've considered it |
| [15:28:39] | <andygraybeal> | i could put together the hardware and assemble it at Green Edge Gardens and show it off as an example 'package' |
| [15:29:10] | <andygraybeal> | do you plan on using something like nagios (icinga) to monitoring / alerting ? |
| [15:32:00] | <andygraybeal> | including the cost of farmier payments going to you |
| [15:32:12] | <andygraybeal> | just random thoughts here sorry... no cohesion |
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| [16:00:44] | <mstenta> | farmBOT: tell andygraybeal Hey sorry I didn't see you messages until after you logged off. |
| [16:00:44] | <farmBOT> | mstenta: I'll pass that on when andygraybeal is around. |
| [16:01:49] | <mstenta> | farmBOT: tell andygraybeal I'm open to ideas! |
| [16:01:49] | <farmBOT> | mstenta: I'll pass that on when andygraybeal is around. |
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| [16:25:51] | <andygraybeal> | switched network adapters |
| [16:25:51] | <farmBOT> | andygraybeal: 25 min 7 sec ago <mstenta> tell andygraybeal Hey sorry I didn't see you messages until after you logged off. |
| [16:25:51] | <farmBOT> | andygraybeal: 24 min 2 sec ago <mstenta> tell andygraybeal I'm open to ideas! |
| [16:26:05] | <andygraybeal> | nice, thank you farmiebot |
| [16:26:36] | <andygraybeal> | what do you plan on using to monitor the data from the sensors? |
| [16:26:59] | <andygraybeal> | i've used sensors with fridgeration units and i just used nagios (icinga) because it was easy! |
| [16:27:31] | <andygraybeal> | its got the graphs, and alerting built in |
| [16:29:53] | <mstenta> | andygraybeal: i'd like to make a flexible "Farm Sensor API" module that other modules could plug into |
| [16:29:54] | <mstenta> | https://www.drupal.org/node/2399327 |
| [16:30:15] | <mstenta> | andygraybeal: one that's agnostic about the specific sensor itself... but provides ways for it to tie into farmos |
| [16:30:26] | <andygraybeal> | nice |
| [16:30:30] | <mstenta> | so i'll probably write a sub-module for Atmospi |
| [16:30:49] | <mstenta> | that allows me to link to Atmospi sensors, and assign them to locations in FarmOS |
| [16:30:58] | <mstenta> | and display data directly in FarmOS |
| [16:31:23] | <mstenta> | making it flexible-enough to handle any kind of sensor might be tricky though, so I want to use that issue on drupal.org to brainstorm requirements |
| [16:31:27] | <andygraybeal> | cool, i look forward to it |
| [16:32:13] | <mstenta> | i don't know much about nagios |
| [16:32:23] | <mstenta> | but maybe it would be worth leveraging? does it integrate well with web apps? |
| [16:32:38] | <andygraybeal> | i'm not so sure |
| [16:32:56] | <mstenta> | the farm sensor api module might not actually do anything with graphs or notifications... and just defer that to the sensors themselves |
| [16:32:57] | <andygraybeal> | i learned it as standalone and just had it tied with LDAP for auth |
| [16:33:17] | <mstenta> | it will probably have a way to "get current reading" at the very least |
| [16:33:42] | <mstenta> | but maybe there can be another module that provides logging of sensor data itself, with graphs and stuff... that would be nice... for sensors that don't have their own |
| [16:33:46] | <andygraybeal> | i enjoyed the centralized graphs and alerts that nagios does. |
| [16:33:53] | <mstenta> | and a notification system could easily be built with Rules on top of that |
| [16:34:01] | <andygraybeal> | i wouldnt want to rely on the sensors to keep data |
| [16:34:36] | <andygraybeal> | i enjoyed nagios cause it would poll every 5 minutes |
| [16:35:17] | <andygraybeal> | if you keep the sensors simple enough, they cost less money |
| [16:35:26] | <mstenta> | andygraybeal: yea, but the system will need to able to support sensors that already DO keep their own data |
| [16:35:32] | <mstenta> | like Fido and Atmospi |
| [16:35:38] | <mstenta> | or others |
| [16:36:02] | <andygraybeal> | i see |
| [16:36:06] | <mstenta> | but yes: there should ALSO be a way to do it directly in FarmOS... for simpler sensors |
| [16:36:19] | <mstenta> | the tricky part is getting the data... |
| [16:36:32] | <mstenta> | in order for a Drupal site to poll a sensor, it has to have some way to communicate with it over the internet |
| [16:36:47] | <mstenta> | there's lots of ways to do that... but it requires setup |
| [16:37:06] | <mstenta> | so the Farm Sensor API may require that the sensors be available via a REST API or something |
| [16:37:26] | <mstenta> | not sure exactly how to make it general enough... :-/ |
| [16:37:28] | <andygraybeal> | yea. maybe keep your focus tight for now just to get it done.. |
| [16:38:40] | <andygraybeal> | you know about snmp right? |
| [16:38:55] | <mstenta> | no what's that? |
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| [18:16:24] | <andygraybeal> | sorry i got swept away by my kid |
| [18:16:31] | <andygraybeal> | he takes huge parts of my day out |