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| [16:02:17] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | can I run FarmOS without Docker? |
| [16:02:27] | <mstenta[m]> | Yes |
| [16:03:01] | <mstenta[m]> | It is Drupal. So all the various ways of hosting Drupal is possible. |
| [16:03:05] | <mstenta[m]> | s/is/are/ |
| [16:03:11] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | 10 4 |
| [16:03:27] | <mstenta[m]> | I would personally recommend using Composer. |
| [16:03:27] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | thanks |
| [16:03:41] | <mstenta[m]> | We have official documentation for that here: https://farmos.org/hosting/composer/ |
| [16:04:03] | <mstenta[m]> | But you can also download "packaged releases" which are basically a tarball that you unpack into an Apache docroot. |
| [16:04:26] | <mstenta[m]> | Documentation here: https://farmos.org/hosting/install/#packaged-releases |
| [16:05:00] | <mstenta[m]> | The benefit of Docker is it encapsulates ALL of the dependencies and configuration and is guaranteed to work out of the box. |
| [16:06:05] | <mstenta[m]> | When you are using packaged releases or composer you are responsible for setting up all the dependencies (Apache, PHP, GEOS, PostgreSQL, etc) |
| [16:06:50] | <mstenta[m]> | If you need to see how the Docker image is set up, it is pretty well documented in comments: https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS/blob/3.x/docker/Dockerfile |
| [16:07:08] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | So the postgres instance is inside the Docker container already? |
| [16:07:26] | <mstenta[m]> | (although it inherits from the official Drupal image, which inherits from PHP, etc and those layers handle the lower level stuff) |
| [16:07:27] | <mstenta[m]> | No |
| [16:07:48] | <mstenta[m]> | The farmOS Docker image is essentially an Apache image with farmOS code prebuilt |
| [16:08:09] | <mstenta[m]> | You have to provide a database, either via another Docker container or on a remote server. |
| [16:09:06] | <mstenta[m]> | I would also recommend joining the forum - there are a bunch of topics by people installing outside of Docker, and their findings/troubleshooting/etc: https:/farmOS.discourse.group |
| [16:12:02] | <mstenta[m]> | Here is a recent one: https://farmos.discourse.group/t/packaged-farmos-install-on-ubuntu/2079 |
| [16:12:33] | <mstenta[m]> | (This is not officially endorsed/tested/supported 😄) |
| [16:13:20] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | mstenta[m]: this could be helpful thanks |
| [16:13:30] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | i guess i just need to learn more about Drupal and Docker |
| [16:13:31] | <mstenta[m]> | https://farmos.org/hosting/install is the official docs |
| [16:14:03] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | they seem foreign compared to other web frameworks |
| [16:14:20] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | to me anyways |
| [16:14:20] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea Docker is another layer, but it is soooo worth it :-) |
| [16:15:07] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | imma try to get on the bandwagon |
| [16:15:29] | <mstenta[m]> | Setting up a local farmOS development environment is an easy way to dip you toe in! |
| [16:15:39] | <mstenta[m]> | https://farmos.org/development/environment/ |
| [16:15:43] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | that is the plan |
| [16:16:09] | <mstenta[m]> | ^ That page documents how to do that. You just need to install Docker first, but then it's simple. |
| [16:16:11] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | but i couldn't make the step 1 commands work |
| [16:17:03] | <mstenta[m]> | https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/ |
| [16:17:16] | <mstenta[m]> | ^ That documents installing Docker :-) |
| [16:17:39] | <mstenta[m]> | Are you on Linux/Mac/Windows? |
| [16:18:17] | <mstenta[m]> | All of this is well tested on Linux. YMMV w/ Windows/Mac. |
| [16:19:51] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | debian |
| [16:20:44] | <mstenta[m]> | great! you shouldn't have any trouble |
| [16:20:51] | <mstenta[m]> | the Docker image is based on Debian |
| [16:21:47] | <alex_has_a_sandwich[m]> | yeah i shouldn't lol |