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| [08:12:20] | <pcambra[m]> | Hi Yash Goel :) |
| [08:24:16] | <mstenta[m]> | 👋 |
| [08:35:14] | <ludwa6[m]> | > <@farmer-ed:matrix.org> Thanks, |
| [08:35:14] | <ludwa6[m]> | > I thought I might start actually documenting things better/more frequently myself if I keep it simple. |
| [08:35:14] | <ludwa6[m]> | Hey Ed: i'd *love* to have this form in the field w/ me, to record quick log entries, if they can be synced (in the moment, or later) w/ my farmOS instance in Farmier... But i'm not clear about what would need to be installed on mobile and/or on server. Can you say what might be involved in setting that up? |
| [08:41:33] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Sure, I'm on the run at the moment but can discuss later |
| [09:54:06] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Hey ludwa6: what phone have you? |
| [10:18:49] | <ludwa6[m]> | <FarmerEd[m]> "Hey ludwa6: what phone have you?" <- I'm primarily an iPhone user, Farmer Ed , but i do have an Android on hand for specialty apps that aren't avail on iOS. |
| [10:26:19] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Ok, my current setup involves running the Node-Red server on an Android phone. |
| [10:26:19] | <FarmerEd[m]> | But this form in particular does not strictly need the server running on the phone either. (It will if I decide to make it available off line though). |
| [10:26:19] | <FarmerEd[m]> | It should work with any instance of farmOS including Farmier. |
| [10:26:19] | <FarmerEd[m]> | If you want it on an iphone then node-red will need to be running on another server such as a PC that can be left on. Obviously the PC would need to be accessible from the phone. (There are a few options for that.) |
| [10:27:21] | <FarmerEd[m]> | The current version of this form creates the logs in real time via the API |
| [10:28:19] | <ludwa6[m]> | Sounds like the easiest route will be this Node-Red app on my Android phone talking direct to my Farmier instance in cloud -yes? Q: does it access farmOS via API? |
| [10:28:59] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Yes, access via API |
| [10:29:04] | <evered[m]> | Good morning from rainy Santa Barbara California. :) |
| [10:29:37] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Good evening evered: |
| [10:29:42] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: i thought "it never rains in California" (old song, probably b4 yer time, mate :-) |
| [10:30:25] | <evered[m]> | This year, not to interrupt the Node-Red conversation, we are getting "cyclone bombs" |
| [10:31:07] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: no fun, i am sure -but better than droughts & wildfires (take it from a guy in S.Portugal) |
| [10:31:58] | <evered[m]> | Oh - yes! The plants, trees, and birds LOVE this weather. It is stormy, and the ocean has overrun beach parking lots a bit, but I dig it. |
| [10:32:26] | <evered[m]> | We're expecting 4.5 inches through Tuesday! |
| [10:32:49] | <FarmerEd[m]> | If we could all share our surplus weather, wouldn't farming be great |
| [10:33:02] | <evered[m]> | I agree, Farmer Ed |
| [10:33:53] | <symbioquine[m]> | evered[m]: Any extreme event (weather or otherwise) both creates new niches and destroys/perturbs established ones. |
| [10:33:53] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: i envy you the rain. All the rain-harvesting earthworks i have done around this farm are of some help, but... Where there is no rain, there is very little growing, alas. |
| [10:33:54] | <evered[m]> | The creeks are rivers and the fresh water is washing into the ocean... we are at extreme drought here, and all along the Colorado River into Arizona, Los Angeles, and Mexico. |
| [10:36:22] | <ludwa6[m]> | Q2 Farmer Ed : Is this an app i can install and run on any Android phone? (i'm a complete Android n00b, but i do have this Nokia running the SurveyStack from OurSci) |
| [10:37:26] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Unfortunately not, it's a bit hacky but I can put together some instructions. |
| [10:37:51] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: Sounds like you could do w/ some water-harvesting earthworks also there, evered . Do you know the work of Brad Lancaster? his book "Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands" is an amazing resource. |
| [10:38:16] | <FarmerEd[m]> | There is a Node-Red app in play store and even available for iphone but it's too sandboxed |
| [10:39:27] | <evered[m]> | ludwa6: |
| [10:39:28] | <evered[m]> | ACTION uploaded an image: (250KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/OasndxFpGJw... > |
| [10:41:13] | <ludwa6[m]> | FarmerEd[m]: I'd like to say i'm game for that, Farmer Ed , but i'm just too busy for any heavy tech-play at this time... So don't go documenting on my account; i know what a PITA that is, when code is in a flux |
| [10:43:16] | <evered[m]> | think of the challenge as play, sort of like a game to play.. get it to run :) |
| [10:45:39] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: heh: can be, for one that has time for it... But running serious farm ops is a FT+ occupation for me right now, and every hour i spend w/ my head in a screen means that critical farm ops get neglected. |
| [10:46:46] | <ludwa6[m]> | ... unless the screen i'm looking at has useful farm ops data, presented in a usable way, and my every keystroke is helping the farm, not the tech stack. |
| [10:49:10] | <ludwa6[m]> | speaking of which: duty calls, so i gotta go. Looks like a real useful app you got cooking there, Farmer Ed ; will be watching the flow of news on this front. |
| [10:49:16] | <evered[m]> | Do you have a computer that would allow booting from USB a LIVE Linux distribution to run the docker app? That's the easiest in my opinnion, however, I am a computer scientist. |
| [10:49:49] | <ludwa6[m]> | evered[m]: ha! not a chance |
| [10:50:04] | <evered[m]> | That would be an interesting project for me, a bootable Farm OS Live CD :D |
| [10:50:23] | <ludwa6[m]> | ACTION farms |
| [10:50:24] | <evered[m]> | s/:D/😼/ |
| [10:50:39] | <evered[m]> | Thank you for the vegies, brother/sister~ |
| [10:50:47] | <evered[m]> | s/~/!/ |
| [10:55:42] | <FarmerEd[m]> | No worries ludwa6: if you ever wanted to mess with it, probably simpler to try Node-Red in the more traditional setting of a Windows/macOS/Linux host, if it were something you really wanted then you could explore getting it to mobile either on device or through a VPN |
| [10:57:34] | <FarmerEd[m]> | <evered[m]> "That would be an interesting..." <- Maybe get the docker image running directly on Android 😁 |
| [10:58:11] | <evered[m]> | Node-Red is what? An Android layer for running, what, docker? Guessing here. |
| [10:59:19] | <FarmerEd[m]> | No it's a low code programing environment. Based on nodeJS |
| [10:59:22] | <evered[m]> | "Node-RED is a programming tool for wiring together hardware devices, APIs and online services in new and interesting ways. |
| [10:59:22] | <evered[m]> | It provides a browser-based editor that makes it easy to wire together flows using the wide range of nodes in the palette that can be deployed to its runtime in a single-click." |
| [10:59:38] | <evered[m]> | Oh. I see. |
| [10:59:56] | <evered[m]> | I am no help. Sigh. |
| [11:00:18] | <evered[m]> | Sorry about that. |
| [11:01:31] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Running it on Android takes advantage of the fact android is based on Linux and uses an app called termux to give a proper Linux Terminal. |
| [11:01:54] | <evered[m]> | Android OS, on a phone or tablet, you mean? |
| [11:16:25] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Yes |
| [12:49:55] | <evered[m]> | Is Node-Red related to FarmOS, Farmer Ed ? Just curious. |
| [12:50:35] | <mstenta[m]> | Nope! https://nodered.org/ |
| [12:50:39] | <mstenta[m]> | But they can be used together! |
| [12:50:48] | <mstenta[m]> | As Farmer Ed has so skillfully shown! |
| [12:51:50] | <evered[m]> | Sweet. |
| [12:51:57] | <evered[m]> | Thank you. |
