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| [07:20:57] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I keep falling a bit further down the Drupal/PHP rabbit hole lately, but think I'm a bit ill-equipped tools wise. |
| [07:20:57] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I've been using a basic text editor with syntax highlighting and a Drupal Devel module. |
| [07:20:57] | <FarmerEd[m]> | What tools do you recommended? PHP Storm? any alternatives? or other recommended tools? |
| [07:22:07] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I see Eclipse has a PHP IDE too. |
| [07:22:38] | <mstenta[m]> | That's a good start! (basic + devel) |
| [07:22:51] | <mstenta[m]> | Have you discovered the dpm() function? |
| [07:23:17] | <mstenta[m]> | Useful for printing variables out to the screen |
| [07:23:35] | <mstenta[m]> | I spent a long time developing with just those! |
| [07:23:38] | <FarmerEd[m]> | yes fairly recently |
| [07:24:01] | <mstenta[m]> | I use PHPStorm now and love it, but its not free :-/ |
| [07:24:29] | <mstenta[m]> | I've heard good things about both Eclipse and VSCode but can't really speak to them |
| [07:24:32] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Had been posting variables to Node-Red previously :D |
| [07:25:11] | <FarmerEd[m]> | probably the bailing twine and pallets approach |
| [07:25:19] | <mstenta[m]> | The real power tool is XDebug though. If you can get that working (with whatever IDE) you'll be 🚀 |
| [07:25:43] | <mstenta[m]> | The farmOS dev docker image comes with it |
| [07:26:14] | <mstenta[m]> | I wish I learned to use that a lot earlier than I did |
| [07:26:16] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I see that and have the PHP storm trial enabled |
| [07:26:29] | <mstenta[m]> | Oh cool! |
| [07:26:40] | <FarmerEd[m]> | but probably have a few gaps to fill to get working |
| [07:26:56] | <mstenta[m]> | You need to make a slight adjustment to your docker-compose.yml to get it connected |
| [07:27:18] | <mstenta[m]> | What OS are you using? |
| [07:27:30] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Windows and Linux |
| [07:27:53] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Comfortable with either |
| [07:28:25] | <mstenta[m]> | I've only set it up with linux, so I'm mostly familiar with that |
| [07:29:10] | <mstenta[m]> | There is one small annoyance with linux: you need to update the IP address in docker-compose.yml every time it changes in the docker container |
| [07:29:29] | <mstenta[m]> | I think we documented this... let me see... |
| [07:29:56] | <mstenta[m]> | https://farmos.org/development/environment/debug/ |
| [07:31:23] | <mstenta[m]> | Maybe we could get you set up on the dev call :-) |
| [07:32:25] | <FarmerEd[m]> | That would be cool if there is time |
| [07:33:49] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Think I'm OK with the docker configs. |
| [07:33:49] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Probably need more help on the correct configuration of the IDE itself |
| [07:34:21] | <mstenta[m]> | The IDE *should* "just work" with that config... you just need to click the little phone icon in the top right of the IDE |
| [07:34:30] | <FarmerEd[m]> | But I'll have a play with it over the next few days as well |
| [07:34:31] | <mstenta[m]> | to "listen for connections" |
| [07:35:05] | <mstenta[m]> | (assuming you're on linux and running the docker dev environment per all the normal instructions) |
| [07:35:19] | <mstenta[m]> | (haven't tested other setups) |
| [07:35:55] | <mstenta[m]> | a good way to test it is to open Drupal's `web/index.php` and put a breakpoint on the `$response->send();` line |
| [07:36:12] | <mstenta[m]> | (or any line really) |
| [07:36:24] | <mstenta[m]> | then visit any page in your browser, and it should catch it |
| [07:37:21] | <mstenta[m]> | you MAY need to set up a mapping... i forget (basically telling PHPStorm how your local `www/web/index.php` maps to `/opt/drupal/web/index.php` in the container |
| [07:37:28] | <mstenta[m]> | * the container) |
| [07:38:30] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Just installed the Windows version, |
| [07:38:30] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Need to install PHP interpreters for it apparently, |
| [07:38:30] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Presume I'll need 7.4 and 8 |
| [07:38:54] | <mstenta[m]> | Ah hmm |
| [07:38:57] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea |
| [07:40:08] | <mstenta[m]> | are you using "Docker Desktop" in Windows? Or Windows Subsystem for Linux? (or both? I don't really understand how they relate) |
| [07:42:01] | <FarmerEd[m]> | I'm running farmOS on Ubuntu in a VM on my Windows laptop for development |
| [07:42:11] | <mstenta[m]> | Ah ok |
| [07:42:28] | <mstenta[m]> | So... that will probably add an additional layer to this... |
| [07:42:32] | <FarmerEd[m]> | So I can try the Linux version too |
| [07:42:44] | <mstenta[m]> | I'm sure it's possible, I just haven't done it that wya |
| [07:43:28] | <mstenta[m]> | But I imagine you would need to have a docker volume for the `www` directory AND then also have that in a shared folder so that PHPStorm in Windows can use it |
| [07:43:36] | <mstenta[m]> | (maybe you already did that) |
| [07:44:01] | <FarmerEd[m]> | If I get it working on Linux I can always figure out any additional layers to work on Windows later. |
| [07:44:19] | <mstenta[m]> | cool yea that seems like a good approach - start with what we know works |
| [07:45:00] | <FarmerEd[m]> | But yea, I can share the docker folders with Windows and do for file transfer anyway. |
| [07:45:39] | <mstenta[m]> | Cool |
| [07:46:07] | <mstenta[m]> | (the other curiosity I would have is how file permissions are affected by that... and whether or not any issues would arise from that) |
| [07:46:39] | <mstenta[m]> | (I know that has been a snag in the past... Windows<=>Linux file permission issues) |
| [07:46:58] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Think maybe I should build a dedicated machine here for development, Laptops drives a bit small and getting choked with VM images. Maybe use a hyperviser. |
| [07:48:12] | <mstenta[m]> | I know PHPStorm can work with remote code too... so maybe you could set something up on a server and use your laptop w/ PHPStorm to connect to it |
| [07:48:17] | <mstenta[m]> | (after getting it working simply first haha) |
| [07:48:49] | <mstenta[m]> | I'm excited to show you some PHPStorm tricks though, once you're up and running 😄 |
| [07:49:07] | <FarmerEd[m]> | Yea, I'll go with a simple all Linux approach first. |
| [10:58:11] | <evered[m]> | I love my penguins |
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