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| [13:44:49] | <symbioquine[m]> | Finally got around to testing out the Mapbox layers to see if they are a reasonable replacement for Google maps in my area. It seems like they're both much lower resolution and older imagery. |
| [14:04:33] | <shane_aldrich[m]> | <symbioquine[m] "Finally got around to testing ou"> Did you look at the documentation here: https://docs.mapbox.com/ ? |
| [14:06:52] | <symbioquine[m]> | No, I was just testing out the default configuration in farmOS with the default account API key. |
| [14:13:56] | <symbioquine[m]> | From skimming their API docs though, I don't see anything to select the age of the imagery. |
| [14:16:51] | <symbioquine[m]> | ... and what I'm seeing in farmOS matches the age/quality of the demos on the Mapbox site. Naively I would assume that they'd show off their most recent and highest quality satellite imagery there - even if they might have options for older or lower resolution available. |
| [16:07:50] | <shane_aldrich[m]> | True. |
| [16:08:19] | <mstenta[m]> | I wish Google would just make their layers available via standard XYZ URL endpoints. |
| [16:08:44] | <mstenta[m]> | I don't understand why they don't. It could still require an API key. |
| [16:09:08] | <symbioquine[m]> | Yeah |
| [16:09:24] | <mstenta[m]> | During my explorations for farmOS-map I discovered that it actually is possible to reverse-engineer the URL... but... it's against their license to do so, as I understand it. |
| [16:10:08] | <mstenta[m]> | And that's why ol3-googlemaps works around that by using the actual Google Maps JS library rendered underneath the OpenLayers map (if I remember all the details correctly...) |
| [16:11:04] | <mstenta[m]> | symbioquine: I wonder if BingMaps has better imagery for you? https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/bing-maps.html |
| [16:11:42] | <mstenta[m]> | Maybe it would be worth considering Bing - seems like OL supports it out of the box. |
| [16:15:22] | <mstenta[m]> | Bing imagery is the WORST of the three for my place :-( |
| [16:15:32] | <mstenta[m]> | And MapBox isn't much better... |
| [16:15:42] | <mstenta[m]> | Google is by far the best... |
| [16:16:32] | <mstenta[m]> | Bah... man... we're going to need to keep supporting a Google module :-( |
| [16:16:50] | <mstenta[m]> | As much as I'd love to drop it... |
| [16:39:18] | <symbioquine[m]> | <mstenta[m] "symbioquine: I wonder if BingMap"> It's a bit better than the Mapbox imagery, but worse than GM. |
| [16:40:23] | <symbioquine[m]> | The GM imagery is actually even better in many ways than the county-specific imagery. |
| [16:40:38] | <symbioquine[m]> | <mstenta[m] "Bah... man... we're going to nee"> Yeah |
| [16:41:01] | <mstenta[m]> | Not surprising... Google does a good job with maps... (I say that begrudgingly) |
| [16:42:52] | <symbioquine[m]> | <mstenta[m] "During my explorations for farmO"> Might be possible to make a generic raster-by-url contrib module, then users could make that decision for themselves without code or farmOS explicitly endorsing it. |
| [16:44:12] | <mstenta[m]> | ah hmm |
| [16:44:33] | <mstenta[m]> | "use at your own risk" |
| [16:45:19] | <symbioquine[m]> | Yeah, it could be a bit dicey 🤫 |
| [16:45:21] | <mstenta[m]> | well in either case, i think i need to support it for farmier users... so i think i'll need the legal approach :-) |
| [16:45:37] | <symbioquine[m]> | Yep, makes sense |
| [16:48:56] | <symbioquine[m]> | When I get back to my computer I'll have to check out whether the current OL GM example works the same way... http://dev.openlayers.org/examples/google.html |
| [16:49:24] | <mstenta[m]> | Ah yea... so that's actually for OpenLayers v2 |
| [16:49:37] | <mstenta[m]> | They did officially support Google back then... but then dropped support in v3+ |
| [16:49:47] | <mstenta[m]> | Because of the added complexity I think |
| [16:49:58] | <symbioquine[m]> | Ahhh :( |
| [16:51:07] | <mstenta[m]> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28738238/how-to-add-google-basemaps-... |
| [16:51:14] | <mstenta[m]> | > Google Maps is officially not supported by ol3, see https://gist.github.com/elemoine/e82c7dd4b1d0ef45a9a4 |
| [16:51:58] | <mstenta[m]> | This describes how to use the raster layer URLs directly: https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/231629/openlayers-v4-0-1-support... |
| [16:52:22] | <mstenta[m]> | And this comment: |
| [16:52:26] | <mstenta[m]> | > Be careful if you plan to use this; it is a direct violation of Google Maps' terms of service and you will likely get in trouble. – Alex McMillan Aug 21 '18 at 5:23 |
| [16:52:55] | <mstenta[m]> | And this one: |
| [16:52:56] | <mstenta[m]> | > No it doesn't, and it will probably never support it, since there is no direct tiles access with GMaps. The only option that I know of is still something like: https://github.com/mapgears/ol3-google-maps |
| [16:53:08] | <mstenta[m]> | Which brings us full circle :-) |
| [16:53:43] | <symbioquine[m]> | Yeah, bummer |