IRC logs for #farmOS, 2021-05-21 (GMT)

2021-05-20
2021-05-22
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[20:30:41]<paul121[m]>I'm curious if we could enable this discourse event plugin in our discourse forum? https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-event/149964
[20:31:49]<paul121[m]>it's an "official" plugin that allows attaching events to forum posts
[20:32:15]<mstenta[m]>paul121: i just made you a forum admin :-)
[20:32:20]<mstenta[m]>(should have done that a long time ago!)
[20:32:56]<paul121[m]>set an event time/details, I think set recurring events, users can mark attendance, etc..
[20:33:24]<paul121[m]>oh haha. well do we have any experience with Discourse plugins?
[20:33:45]<mstenta[m]>i'm looking at https://farmos.discourse.group/admin/plugins now
[20:33:48]<paul121[m]>I'm happy to try it! Just don't want to break everything!!!
[20:34:18]<mstenta[m]>looks like there's a set of plugins available... but i don't see event
[20:34:49]<mstenta[m]>there's also a "Need more plugins?" button that opens a "here's how to upgrade to a paid plan" dialog
[20:34:50]<paul121[m]>`discourse-calendar` is the actual name, seems like event features were added later on
[20:35:09]<paul121[m]>ahhh yes
[20:35:20]<mstenta[m]>hmm yea don't see calendar either
[20:36:08]<mstenta[m]>sounds like it's relatively new, though? maybe they will make it available to us in the future?
[20:36:52]<mstenta[m]>(we've got free hosting from Discourse.org because we're an open source project - so we don't have direct control over the server it's running on
[20:38:44]<paul121[m]>right... hmmm
[20:39:20]<mstenta[m]>might have to wait until it's a bit farther along
[20:39:31]<mstenta[m]>looks cool though! would be great to be able to manage events!
[20:39:43]<mstenta[m]>(would obviate the need for the groups.drupal.org group too yea?)
[20:39:57]<mstenta[m]>maybe we could express our interest somehow :-)
[20:39:58]<paul121[m]>seems like it isn't super new tho? maybe only some of the latest features?
[20:39:58]<paul121[m]>https://github.com/discourse/discourse-calendar
[20:40:08]<mstenta[m]>oh ok hmm
[20:40:11]<paul121[m]>yea that's my motivation haha
[20:41:27]<paul121[m]>ah here's the map of which plugins are available on which tiers: https://www.discourse.org/plugins
[20:41:46]<paul121[m]>and fwiw installation instructions for self-hosted forums: https://meta.discourse.org/t/install-plugins-in-discourse/19157
[20:42:16]<mstenta[m]>ah dang! so we need a "business" plan?
[20:42:27]<paul121[m]>ah damn... `discourse-calendar` requires the Business plan... $300/month.... BOOOO
[20:42:36]<mstenta[m]>double boo
[20:42:52]<mstenta[m]>but i wonder if they'd give it to us...
[20:43:01]<mstenta[m]>we also don't pay the standard plan fee
[20:43:22]<mstenta[m]>can't be that hard to just turn on a plugin :-)
[20:43:30]<paul121[m]>seems like they could make good money selling a single plugin for $20/month ?
[20:43:34]<mstenta[m]>and for an open source community - events are super useful!
[20:45:32]<paul121[m]>> Yes! If you are legally recognized as an educational institution we offer an 85% discount. If you are legally recognized as a non-profit organization that is exempt from federal taxes, we offer a 50% discount. These discounts apply only to our standard and business plans, and must be paid through a debit/credit card monthly or annually.
[20:45:46]<paul121[m]> * Discounts
[20:45:46]<paul121[m]>>
[20:45:46]<paul121[m]>Yes! If you are legally recognized as an educational institution we offer an 85% discount. If you are legally recognized as a non-profit organization that is exempt from federal taxes, we offer a 50% discount. These discounts apply only to our standard and business plans, and must be paid through a debit/credit card monthly or annually.
[20:45:52]<paul121[m]> * Discounts
[20:45:52]<paul121[m]>> Yes! If you are legally recognized as an educational institution we offer an 85% discount. If you are legally recognized as a non-profit organization that is exempt from federal taxes, we offer a 50% discount. These discounts apply only to our standard and business plans, and must be paid through a debit/credit card monthly or annually.
[20:46:19]<mstenta[m]>this is what we did: https://free.discourse.group/
[20:46:53]<mstenta[m]>we have the option to upgrade to standard plan at 50% off if we ever need to
[20:47:02]<mstenta[m]>(this would give us the ability to have a custom domain, for instance)
[20:47:20]<mstenta[m]>(or if we ever exceed bandwidth/storage limits)
[20:50:00]<paul121[m]>ah - now I can see all the plugin settings
[21:00:31]<paul121[m]>https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-install-a-plugin-on-discourse-hosted...
[21:00:31]<paul121[m]>> For Discourse instances hosted by us (discourse.org 9, Civilized Discourse Construction Kit Inc), you need to be on our Enterprise plan in order to install custom plugin bundles, because we use multisite for standard/business customers and a plugin installed for one customer in a multisite config runs for everyone, which can cause Confusion and Delay if there’s bugs in the plugin, or incompatibilities with other plugin
[21:00:31]<paul121[m]>or any number of other potential issues.
[21:01:14]<paul121[m]><mstenta[m] "can't be that hard to just turn "> seems like it might be a multisite setup :-/
[21:01:25]<mstenta[m]>ah makes sense
[21:01:39]<mstenta[m]>shoulda built it with drupal ;-) ;-)
[21:02:56]<mstenta[m]>> a plugin installed for one customer in a multisite config runs for everyone
[21:02:56]<mstenta[m]>i guess this means if we asked for the event plugin, it would also need to make it available to all other "free" customers
[21:03:11]<mstenta[m]>(still - i think we could make the argument for that!)
[21:04:21]<paul121[m]>gosh, or even just the standard tier!
[21:04:32]<mstenta[m]>yea
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