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| [04:03:40] | <paul121[m]> | That's a really neat idea idoshmida ! |
| [04:03:55] | <paul121[m]> | Makes me think of the JM Fortier online course https://www.themarketgardener.com/course/ |
| [04:04:08] | <paul121[m]> | Always thought something like that could be made more "open" |
| [04:06:28] | <paul121[m]> | I'm not sure the best way of implementing this... maybe a `crop protocol` asset, that you can reference to existing crop taxonomies? |
| [04:08:04] | <paul121[m]> | It would really cool if a protocol could predefine things like "planting density" that are then auto-filled when creating seeding logs for that crop :-) |
| [04:09:14] | <paul121[m]> | Or even just default units for `seeding` and `harvest`... which would then prepopulate the quantities for such logs of that crop |
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| [08:29:15] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea, great ideas idoshmida |
| [08:29:28] | <mstenta[m]> | That is sort of what I envisioned the Crop/variety taxonomy being used for in the future, actually |
| [08:29:51] | <mstenta[m]> | If you edit a Crop/variety term, you'll notice that there are some (old and unused) fields like "Days to maturity" |
| [08:30:20] | <mstenta[m]> | I think it would make more sense for that information to be stored in taxonomy terms than on assets (although I can see the argument both ways) |
| [08:30:55] | <mstenta[m]> | Assets are intended to be the "real things" you are working with, while the terms are the "ideas" that can apply to multiple assets |
| [08:31:27] | <mstenta[m]> | eg: "Corn" as a concept (crop/variety) vs "2019 Corn in Field A" as an actual asset (planting) |
| [08:31:51] | <mstenta[m]> | The "Planting" vs "Crop/variety" vs "Seeding" terminology has been a real point of confusion though... |
| [08:32:30] | <mstenta[m]> | I'm interested in hearing other ideas - we may consider renaming some things in farmOS 2.x |
| [08:32:50] | <mstenta[m]> | eg: instead of "Planting" assets, maybe it would be better to call them "Plants" |
| [08:33:01] | <mstenta[m]> | and instead of "Crop/variety", "Plant types"? |
| [08:33:50] | <mstenta[m]> | That might be more consistent with "Animals" (asset) and "Species/breed" (term) in the livestock module |
| [08:37:56] | <mstenta[m]> | These ideas have been discussed in a few places, but it might be worth starting a forum post to get community feedback |
| [08:38:14] | <mstenta[m]> | The sooner the better, as farmOS 2.x dev is underway and we'll need to decide some of these things soon |
| [09:52:11] | <mstenta[m]> | Of course, the other big consideration here is status quo... what is the cost of changing things that people are already used to? |
| [09:52:40] | <mstenta[m]> | So we need to balance the needs of newcomers to the project and those who have been using it and are accustomed to the existing terminology |
| [10:37:21] | <mstenta[m]> | For future reference, here is one relevant issue on GitHub that we could link to if we make a forum discussion for this: https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS/issues/218 |
| [10:37:44] | <mstenta[m]> | There are also some email exchanges I've had with similar thoughts I can dig up if necessary |
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| [10:55:22] | <jgaehring[m]> | 👍 |
| [12:05:19] | <symbioquine> | In case folks haven't seen it already, we're having some interesting discussion on a possible future direction for farmOS.py in https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS.py/issues/31 Additional inputs/viewpoints are of course welcome! |
| [12:07:17] | <mstenta[m]> | i've been meaning to read through that symbioquine ! |
| [12:07:37] | <mstenta[m]> | excited to see what you and paul121 have been brainstorming |
| [12:07:48] | <symbioquine> | Thanks! |
| [12:15:39] | <paul121[m]> | Just briefly saw your latest reply! Ill take a look later today |
| [12:27:02] | <symbioquine> | Awesome :) |
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| [13:58:32] | <mstenta[m]> | Reminder: farmOS Monthly call is starting in a few minutes! |
| [13:58:37] | <mstenta[m]> | https://farmos.org/community/monthly-call/ |
| [13:58:58] | <mstenta[m]> | No agenda today - so we'll just see what folks feel like talking about :-) |
| [14:00:02] | <jgaehring[m]> | I'll be there in 5-10, need coffee! |
| [14:00:45] | <jgaehring[m]> | one topic that comes to mind: It's My farmOS! |
| [14:01:14] | <symbioquine> | Also planning to join, but might need to get Zoom reinstalled... |
| [14:09:14] | <cpm> | Oh! |
| [14:09:17] | <cpm> | wait! |
| [14:09:18] | <cpm> | :) |
| [14:11:05] | <cpm> | trying to resolve dependencies now |
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| [14:24:25] | <cpm> | never used zoom b4 |
| [14:24:49] | <symbioquine> | Linux? Distro? |
| [14:25:08] | <cpm> | all good. I'm on now. |
| [14:25:14] | <cpm> | fwiw, fedora 31 |
| [14:25:21] | <symbioquine> | Cool |
| [14:25:33] | <symbioquine> | Arch here :) |
| [14:26:00] | <cpm> | cool |
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| [15:03:07] | <cpm> | Fun call. |
| [15:03:30] | <cpm> | It's been a long time for me, is this degree of involvement common now? |
| [15:04:00] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea it's been growing! |
| [15:04:31] | <cpm> | awesome |
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