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| [06:15:56] | <komatek[m]> | Hi mstenta , just played with http://www.heatmapper.ca/geocoordinate/ |
| [06:16:10] | <komatek[m]> | si there feature requests for this kind of feature ? |
| [06:16:28] | <komatek[m]> | ACTION uploaded an image: image.png (531KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lAiWZAJqHVyqvwee... > |
| [06:16:54] | <komatek[m]> | the heat map feature for sensors value should be a must have ;-) |
| [06:17:19] | <komatek[m]> | and the ability to slide a timeline will be really amaizing |
| [06:39:34] | <komatek[m]> | is there some project about storing sensors data in a timeseries DB like InfluxDB ? |
| [06:44:23] | <komatek[m]> | Is there also some projects about MQTT to retrieve sensor data ? |
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| [07:30:23] | <mstenta[m]> | komatek: oooh cool |
| [07:31:23] | <mstenta[m]> | Openlayers can do heat maps |
| [07:31:26] | <mstenta[m]> | https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/heatmap-earthquakes.html |
| [07:32:17] | <mstenta[m]> | Here's a timeline slider feature request: |
| [07:32:19] | <mstenta[m]> | https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS-map/issues/53 |
| [07:32:36] | <mstenta[m]> | Although that was specifically for visualizing the movement of assets |
| [07:32:58] | <mstenta[m]> | But it would be great to do it in a general way so that it could also be used for something like this! |
| [07:34:35] | <mstenta[m]> | Re: Time series db and MQTT there are some discussions on the forum |
| [07:34:47] | <komatek[m]> | yes exactly |
| [07:35:06] | <komatek[m]> | and concerning MQTT ? and also influxDB ? |
| [07:35:23] | <mstenta[m]> | So yes! There have been some related thoughts... But it would be cool to organize them into an actual feature request for something like this specifically! |
| [07:36:16] | <komatek[m]> | ok I can do some feature requests, where do you want them ? |
| [07:51:37] | <komatek[m]> | sorry for all these questions, I'm really enthsiast about farmOS |
| [08:00:30] | <mstenta[m]> | Haha |
| [08:01:00] | <mstenta[m]> | https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS/issues |
| [08:01:38] | <komatek[m]> | * sorry for all these questions, I'm really enthusiastic about farmOS |
| [08:02:03] | <mstenta[m]> | No promises that they will be done anytime soon! Lots of stuff on the list right now, but the first step is a feature request! And maybe someone will have time and interest to pick it up! |
| [08:02:38] | <mstenta[m]> | (the open source project disclaimer haha) |
| [08:03:22] | <komatek[m]> | oh ok we can pull feature requests on the issue part of github |
| [08:04:09] | <komatek[m]> | <mstenta[m] "(the open source project disclai"> Yes I know :-) |
| [08:04:21] | <komatek[m]> | I'll try to help as far as I can |
| [08:18:26] | <mstenta[m]> | Thumbs up! |
| [08:19:26] | <komatek[m]> | and concerning the sensors data it's almost only through json right ? |
| [08:21:42] | <mstenta[m]> | The sensor module that comes with farmOS includes the "listener" sensor type, which listens for sensor data posted to its endpoints as JSON and saves that to the SQL db |
| [08:22:07] | <mstenta[m]> | But: it's possible for modules to define their own sensor type which works however they want |
| [08:22:36] | <mstenta[m]> | There's some more detailed info in the forum about this by me |
| [08:23:01] | <mstenta[m]> | I'll try to find the link when I'm at my computer, but if you search you might find it |
| [08:37:11] | <komatek[m]> | great I'll check that ! |
| [08:37:18] | <komatek[m]> | Thanks alot |
| [08:37:20] | <komatek[m]> | * Thanks a lot |
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| [16:16:51] | <idoshmida[m]> | Hello, any idea how to collect data for pest monitoring? I dont want to use observation log. I want to categorize all kined of pest and monitor my plantings with these categories. |
| [16:17:58] | <mstenta[m]> | idoshmida: the recommended approach is to use Observation logs and tag it with a specific Log Category |
| [16:18:36] | <mstenta[m]> | You can add your own log categories at `/admin/structure/taxonomy/farm_log_categories` |
| [16:18:55] | <mstenta[m]> | Then, you'll be able to filter down to only see those logs in the list in the future |
| [16:19:24] | <idoshmida[m]> | I start to collect data with animal asset. Is this a good solution? |
| [16:19:57] | <idoshmida[m]> | I tried to create a new log type but it looks like it doesnt work... |
| [16:20:03] | <mstenta[m]> | Animal assets are for managing your own animals - I'm not sure it would make sense to use that for pest monitoring |
| [16:20:25] | <mstenta[m]> | Creating new log types is not very simple... it requires creating a module |
| [16:20:48] | <mstenta[m]> | And in general I recommend using the existing log types and refining them with categories - less code to maintain |
| [16:25:20] | <idoshmida[m]> | I understand. I need to create a taxonomy for all my pests and collect data about them. How can i do this with observation log? The category here will not do the job because i have about 50 kindes of pest and each act different on each plant. |
| [16:25:59] | <mstenta[m]> | Ok - so then what I would suggest is: |
| [16:26:11] | <mstenta[m]> | 1. Create a general "Pest Monitoring" log category (or whatever you would like to call it) |
| [16:26:40] | <mstenta[m]> | 2. In each observation, use the Quantity Measurement to count them, and use the Quantity Label to record the pest type |
| [16:27:25] | <mstenta[m]> | Then you can filter down by that category+label with the Quantity Report (/farm/report/quantity) |
| [16:27:54] | <mstenta[m]> | And if you want to make the data entry easier... you can create a custom quick form, with a dropdown of all the different pests you want to monitor |
| [16:28:05] | <mstenta[m]> | (that requires some programming though) |
| [16:28:21] | <mstenta[m]> | (but there are some good examples you can look at for reference...) |
| [16:29:28] | <mstenta[m]> | Do you think that would work? |
| [16:31:19] | <idoshmida[m]> | That is a good idea. Why shoudnt i use pests ass assets that i need to kill ? |
| [16:37:20] | <idoshmida[m]> | allso i have grafted plants. i need to record both crop/veriety of both (root type and shoot type) its important for future filtering. should i create planting log with 2 crop/veriety? any better ideas? |
| [16:37:53] | <idoshmida[m]> | *transplanting log |
| [16:39:05] | <mstenta[m]> | > Why shoudnt i use pests ass assets that i need to kill ? |
| [16:39:05] | <mstenta[m]> | I suppose you could! Some people are actually using Planting assets to track weeds, which is similar. So you could think of it as a central pest asset that you can use to reference from related logs |
| [16:39:33] | <mstenta[m]> | Assets are essentially just a way to organize logs |
| [16:39:38] | <mstenta[m]> | So perhaps that would work for you |
| [16:40:06] | <mstenta[m]> | Ah interesting question re: grafted plant crop/variety |
| [16:40:34] | <mstenta[m]> | If I remember correctly, Planting assets can have multiple Crop/varieties |
| [16:41:09] | <mstenta[m]> | But it is referenced on the Planting (asset), not on the Transplanting (log) |
| [16:42:03] | <idoshmida[m]> | <mstenta[m] "So perhaps that would work for y"> i will try both ways to see what is better. thanks a lot. |
| [16:42:37] | <mstenta[m]> | Sure thing! If you want to share your experience on the forum, perhaps someone else can benefit from it too |
| [16:43:09] | <idoshmida[m]> | ill be happy to do |
| [16:43:33] | <mstenta[m]> | here is the post about weed management: Why shoudnt i use pests ass assets that i need to kill ? |
| [16:43:41] | <mstenta[m]> | oops, copy paste fail :-) |
| [16:43:53] | <mstenta[m]> | * here is the post about weed management: |
| [16:44:01] | <mstenta[m]> | https://farmos.discourse.group/t/development-of-a-weed-management-farmos... |
| [16:45:51] | <idoshmida[m]> | <mstenta[m] "But it is referenced on the Plan"> that will be a problem? the crop/veraiety is always atached to the asset and not to the logs. i dont understand why? |
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| [17:10:37] | <mstenta[m]> | it was just an early design decision to do it that way |
| [17:11:02] | <mstenta[m]> | but since then there have been a few use cases proposed that would benefit from actually having that on the log level instead |
| [17:11:09] | <mstenta[m]> | so perhaps we can move to that, but it would require some thought |
| [17:11:40] | <mstenta[m]> | let's start a github issue for it! and list the use-cases/reasoning for it |
| [17:14:03] | <idoshmida[m]> | grate. ill love to help. about pest managing: i allso need to record spraying and IPM (Biologically based Integrated Pest Management). i want these logs to be attached to my pests for monitoring and not only for the planting. any ideas? |
| [17:42:40] | <mstenta[m]> | ah ok - so that might be a reason to have pest assets ;-) |
| [17:58:51] | <idoshmida[m]> | ok grate thanks again! |
| [18:01:36] | <mstenta[m]> | idoshmida: i made an issue to think this through... |
| [18:01:38] | <mstenta[m]> | https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS/issues/245 |
| [18:02:52] | <mstenta[m]> | It is not a small change, however, and would require thinking through all the considerations around migrating old data, so I can't guarantee it will happen soon.... but good to have an issue there so that we think about it |
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| [18:54:11] | <idoshmida[m]> | any crop rotations issues ? i didnt found any |