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[19:49:23]<generalredneck[m>Wouldn't Farmier be subject to CCPA?
[19:55:46]<generalredneck[m>So a few things...
[19:55:46]<generalredneck[m>1) FarmOS could really use some tutorials. I've learned what I know from a couple of youtube videos that are set up as interviews and noticed that the screenshare had a few things I wanted. I'm a Drupal Developer by trade so this helps but FarmOs has some really great vision that's not obvious. Lets target some scenarios.
[19:55:46]<generalredneck[m>2) I wanted to ask if there are any particular helpful articles out there for homesteaders? I have rabbits, chickens, ducks and bees. I would like to keeps up with rabbit litters, birth/mortality rates, weights over times (observations I guess), and pedigrees. Egg count and feed costs are important to me with chickens and ducks... as well as meat productions and egg sales. Any quick guidance here?
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[20:48:50]<generalredneck[m>ACTION sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tgHSYBfnDKZsdAtF... >
[20:50:15]<generalredneck[m>Also out outside of financial support.... is farmier looking for development help?
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[09:14:25]<jgaehring[m]>I'm not sure if this adequately addresses generalredneck's concerns, but I wonder if it would be helpful to open up the website to allowing community members to submit blog posts and/or tutorials that could cover these kinds of topics
[09:14:54]<jgaehring[m]>the Gatsby folks do something like this: https://www.gatsbyjs.org/contributing/blog-and-website-contributions/
[09:19:21]<jgaehring[m]>I know I've personally found this approach helpful, because such material can address more niche use cases than we can cover in the [User Guide](https://farmos.org/guide/)
[09:22:18]<jgaehring[m]>(sidenote: looking at Gatsby's whole "Contributing" page now and getting super jealous: https://www.gatsbyjs.org/contributing/)
[09:53:34]<mstenta[m]>i love that idea!
[09:55:07]<mstenta[m]>(getting caught up on messages from over the weekend - bear with me everyone) :-)
[09:56:38]<mstenta[m]>ludwa6: glad to hear the app is working for you! and i'm excited to read through and respond to your ideas on Github
[09:58:18]<ludwa6>mstenta: and i’m excited to have the geolocation working for observations in the field. Thanks for that!
[09:58:54]<mstenta[m]>skipper_is: i'm sure we could get you migrated to farmier if that's what you'd rather do - i know we ran into some issues converting from PostgreSQL but I bet we could work through them and figure it out.
[09:59:37]<mstenta[m]>ludwa6: so actually, regarding that... i'm not sure anything I did has actually been merged yet! this is what i was (and still am) working on: https://github.com/farmOS/farmOS-client/pull/268
[09:59:53]<mstenta[m]>what exactly are you doing?
[10:00:41]<mstenta[m]>i was specifically working on fixing the "Add my GPS location to log" button, as well as the "Search nearby areas" toggle
[10:00:49]<mstenta[m]>But those fixes are still in progress
[10:01:52]<ludwa6>mstenta; all i know is: the basic function i was looking for FieldApp to fulill -i.e. let me record an observation in field to farmOS, including both photo and geolocation- was not working… But since i did the upgrade, it works.
[10:02:40]<mstenta[m]>> Wouldn't Farmier be subject to CCPA?
[10:02:40]<mstenta[m]>generalredneck good question. as of right now, based on the thresholds described on wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Act#Compliance), i don't think Farmier is subject to CCPA
[10:03:08]<mstenta[m]>> FarmOS could really use some tutorials.
[10:03:09]<mstenta[m]>generalredneck AGREED!!! :-D
[10:04:06]<mstenta[m]>ludwa6: ok well that's good to hear!
[10:04:32]<ludwa6>mstenta: that being said, it is (as i reported to the issue tracker) a much too complicated form to facilitate that simple UseCase.
[10:06:16]<ludwa6>I now see that jgaehring aims to modularize the process somehow. I guess if the few simple UseCases the app is able to fulfill were accessible via home screen (with a big visible button: important in the field), that could work.
[10:09:43]<mstenta[m]>ACTION sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hoIUtTZFsPenfDrn... >
[10:11:39]<mstenta[m]>ludwa6: ah yea as jgaehring described, the app has evolved over time - the original goal was to allow quick observations like you describe, and that has been generalized (and expanded) since then, to allow for other things... this has made the "Edit Log" screen grow bigger, which does make the first use-case a bit more cumbersome, agreed. Thanks for your feedback and ideas on this! we're thinking about ways of breaking
[10:11:39]<mstenta[m]>them up again
[10:12:58]<mstenta[m]>> Also out outside of financial support.... is farmier looking for development help?
[10:12:58]<mstenta[m]>generalredneck we've got some big projects underway right now, and may need help down the line! it would be great to stay in touch as things continue to grow/evolve!
[10:13:51]<ludwa6>mstenta: Great to hear. Must be easily doable, now that you have the app architecture and data pipeline working end-to-end; now it is merely a matter of improving the User eXperience (“merely” -ha! :-)
[10:14:39]<mstenta[m]>haha nothings "easy", but I do think we've done a good job architecting the app to make things "easier" to change moving forward :-)
[10:18:46]<jgaehring[m]>> so actually, regarding that... i'm not sure anything I did has actually been merged yet!
[10:18:47]<jgaehring[m]>oh yea, you're right, mstenta! maybe it's the change I made to `enableHighAccuracty`option
[10:21:24]<mstenta[m]>oh yea perhaps that's all it took!
[10:21:46]<mstenta[m]>well hopefully my changes will be another incremental improvement :-)
[10:22:09]<mstenta[m]>i'm still a bit stuck on the "Search nearby areas" part, though - I might need your help again when you have time
[10:23:01]<jgaehring[m]>oh yea, sure thing!
[10:23:22]<jgaehring[m]>I'm around all today if you want to look at it
[10:23:59]<mstenta[m]>ok cool - i have a bunch of things i need to catch up on first, but i'll ping you if i have a chance
[10:52:41]<jgaehring[m]>👍
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