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| [13:51:13] | <skipper_is[m]> | What do I need to set up to allow emailing? At the moment, emails don't get sent |
| [14:31:46] | <mstenta[m]> | You need to have something like postfix or ssmtp installed |
| [14:32:41] | <mstenta[m]> | Postfix is there standard and can work by itself, but sometimes email clients will flag it as spam from unknown sources |
| [14:33:12] | <mstenta[m]> | Ssmtp is good for relaying through another service like AWS SES or MailChimp/Mandrill |
| [14:33:21] | <mstenta[m]> | Which tend to be more trusted |
| [14:33:32] | <skipper_is[m]> | Hmm ok, and Postfix needs to use an existing email address to send from? |
| [14:33:45] | <mstenta[m]> | I'd say start with postfix and see how that works |
| [14:33:54] | <mstenta[m]> | Nope you can send anything from anyone |
| [14:34:15] | <mstenta[m]> | Hence spam :-) |
| [14:34:19] | <skipper_is[m]> | So, what email address is it 'from'? |
| [14:34:23] | <skipper_is[m]> | Wait what? |
| [14:34:29] | <mstenta[m]> | Ah |
| [14:34:30] | <mstenta[m]> | Sorry |
| [14:34:45] | <mstenta[m]> | It will be from the farmOS/Drupal site email address by default |
| [14:34:55] | <skipper_is[m]> | Ah ok |
| [14:35:05] | <mstenta[m]> | Which is configured in /admin/config |
| [14:35:11] | <skipper_is[m]> | I can't just say from "admin@google.com" though surely? |
| [14:35:32] | <mstenta[m]> | You sure can |
| [14:35:39] | <mstenta[m]> | It might not go through |
| [14:35:47] | <skipper_is[m]> | .....And it'll look like it came from that actual address? |
| [14:35:55] | <mstenta[m]> | Yup |
| [14:35:59] | <skipper_is[m]> | ......How is that secure?! |
| [14:36:07] | <mstenta[m]> | Email as a technology does not prevent it |
| [14:36:17] | <skipper_is[m]> | ..............My entire mind is blown |
| [14:36:22] | <mstenta[m]> | But there are layers in between that will filter it out |
| [14:36:35] | <mstenta[m]> | I wouldn't try |
| [14:36:47] | <mstenta[m]> | Your server ip might get flagged as a spammer somewhere |
| [14:37:14] | <mstenta[m]> | The security comes from the receivers not the senders |
| [14:37:31] | <mstenta[m]> | And various methods of verification |
| [14:37:31] | <skipper_is[m]> | .....So why are not more spammers just using like bank email addresses with links? |
| [14:37:35] | <mstenta[m]> | Eg dkms |
| [14:37:51] | <mstenta[m]> | Because Gmail and other clients detect it |
| [14:38:58] | <skipper_is[m]> | My spam bin has some in that have "from" as a correct looking email address, but when you look at the actual details, the actual email address is something different.. |
| [14:40:17] | <skipper_is[m]> | ..My entire understanding of email has been destroyed... |
| [14:40:47] | <skipper_is[m]> | I'll go back to my SQL queries... I understand them to a point... |
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