| [08:31:06] | <mstenta[m]> | skipper_is: thanks for offering to help with a demo farmOS! |
| [08:31:19] | <mstenta[m]> | (I assume that's you https://farmos.discourse.group/t/example-data-for-farmos/86/4) |
| [08:31:49] | <mstenta[m]> | oh wait... is it? |
| [08:31:53] | <skipper_is[m]1> | It is :) |
| [08:32:01] | <mstenta[m]> | Oh great :-) |
| [08:32:15] | <mstenta[m]> | I can set up demo.farmos.net for it |
| [08:32:41] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Yea, that'd be good, and allow anon viewing? |
| [08:32:51] | <skipper_is[m]1> | I'm assuming that is the plan |
| [08:33:25] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea either that or just have a Guest/Guest login that has read-only access |
| [08:34:09] | <mstenta[m]> | So two considerations.... |
| [08:34:26] | <mstenta[m]> | 1) Where should it be? |
| [08:35:02] | <mstenta[m]> | (and related: should we use Metric or US/Imperial system of measurement on it? |
| [08:35:55] | <mstenta[m]> | Is it OK to pick a random farm from satellite and just build around that? Or is there anything wrong with doing that from a privacy perspective? eg: if the actual owner of that property sees it |
| [08:35:55] | <skipper_is[m]1> | That is a good question! From a personal stand point I'd say Metric (and seeing as most of the world uses Metric), but where do you get most enquiries about using FarmOS from? |
| [08:36:11] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea, I was leaning Metric too |
| [08:36:19] | <skipper_is[m]1> | I would've thought that'd be ok, wouldn't it? The data is going to be made up anywa |
| [08:37:12] | <skipper_is[m]1> | And if we don't enable Google Satellite, it'll limit what can be seen |
| [08:37:13] | <mstenta[m]> | It would be good to pick a place that we can demonstrate all the various features |
| [08:37:33] | <mstenta[m]> | eg: large row crop operation / small diversified / livestock grazing / etc |
| [08:37:37] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Yea, but hence why we can just make data up, so a field can become an orchard, or garden beds |
| [08:37:39] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Yea |
| [08:37:53] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea, doesn't really matter too much |
| [08:38:25] | <skipper_is[m]1> | I would say use my farm, but I'm working with kids with special needs, and there are all kinds of privacy/protection issues there XD |
| [08:38:40] | <mstenta[m]> | So the other consideration I thought of: if we put in a bunch of made up logs right now... they will be for this year... do we need to keep updating things moving forward? Or is it OK for people to just see old data as the years go by? |
| [08:38:54] | <mstenta[m]> | Or.... should we think about making something that auto-refreshes |
| [08:39:03] | <skipper_is[m]1> | It would be cool if it could auto refresh |
| [08:39:14] | <skipper_is[m]1> | That sounds like hard work though... |
| [08:39:31] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea probably |
| [08:39:50] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Well, I suppose you could just do a db update job, CRON running once a year, change 2018 to 2019, change 2019 to 2020 |
| [08:40:18] | <mstenta[m]> | True |
| [08:40:48] | <mstenta[m]> | That wouldn't be too complicated... and it's something we could do later, without holding up starting to add stuff now |
| [08:41:06] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Yea |
| [08:43:59] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Is the demo site going to allow editing? Would need a reset as well then... |
| [08:44:54] | <mstenta[m]> | Right... |
| [08:45:11] | <mstenta[m]> | We could start without editing I suppose |
| [08:45:20] | <mstenta[m]> | But editing would be a good thing to demo |
| [08:45:24] | <mstenta[m]> | Since that's really what a lot of this is about |
| [08:45:38] | <mstenta[m]> | But that would definitely require automated resets, like you said |
| [08:45:58] | <mstenta[m]> | (This is why I haven't set up a demo site yet haha) |
| [08:48:53] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Though once it is set up, we could then make a backup copy of that +db, and just use that as our weekly/daily/whatever period backup |
| [08:49:51] | <skipper_is[m]1> | rm farmOSDemo, cp farmOSbackup farmOSDemo |
| [08:50:20] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea that wouldn't be too hard |
| [08:54:18] | <mstenta[m]> | skipper_is: Do you want to DM me your email address? I'll give you a login |
| [09:54:42] | <mstenta[m]> | skipper_is: Check your email... added an account for you |
| [09:55:00] | <mstenta[m]> | I also added a guest/guest user with Farm Viewer role (read only) |
| [09:55:02] | <mstenta[m]> | So you can use that to preview as read only |
| [09:55:39] | <mstenta[m]> | I did not pick a location yet, but let's do somewhere in the United States to start |
| [09:56:09] | <mstenta[m]> | Maybe somewhere in the middle |
| [09:56:35] | <mstenta[m]> | If we can find somewhere on the map that has some big fields, small fields, greenhouses, forest, etc that would be ideal |
| [09:59:13] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Yea, a little CSA farm :) |
| [09:59:48] | <mstenta[m]> | + grazing |
| [09:59:57] | <mstenta[m]> | (that was supposed to be a "+") |
| [10:00:11] | <mstenta[m]> | - + an example of big row crop operations |
| [10:00:22] | <mstenta[m]> | (also supposed to be a "+") :-P |
| [10:00:37] | <mstenta[m]> | CSA + grazing + row crop |
| [10:01:09] | <skipper_is[m]1> | I found a reasonable one, but I'm on the main desktop, rather than the area, so I've no idea where it actually is! |
| [10:01:45] | <skipper_is[m]1> | ah its gone.. Was in Nabraska.. |
| [10:04:45] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Dropped a pin on a potential site |
| [10:05:58] | <paul121[m]> | Could I use this demo site in a farmOS presentation? :D |
| [10:06:11] | <mstenta[m]> | Sure! |
| [10:06:14] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Isn't that what it's for (partially) |
| [10:06:18] | <mstenta[m]> | It will be public |
| [10:06:51] | <skipper_is[m]1> | The little spot I added has some row crops, some largish fields, and some smaller ones |
| [10:07:26] | <skipper_is[m]1> | There is a greenhouse going up in the map |
| [10:08:16] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Some barns as well, so I assume livestock |
| [10:08:32] | <mstenta[m]> | Looks good! |
| [10:08:44] | <skipper_is[m]1> | ACTION uploaded an image: image.png (589KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/dWiKzFjviQPMlTXY... > |
| [10:08:47] | <skipper_is[m]1> | And I dunno what happened ehre.. |
| [10:09:07] | <mstenta[m]> | It has a Google label "Common Good Farm" - do you think we should avoid places with labels like that? |
| [10:09:15] | <mstenta[m]> | So that it doesn't appear that we're associated with them? |
| [10:09:17] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Oh maybe |
| [10:10:34] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Really weird roads in the US.... They're set out in a massive grid! |
| [10:11:55] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea - in the middle of the country at least |
| [10:12:09] | <mstenta[m]> | The coasts are more hilly |
| [10:12:11] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Bit boring to drive along I'd bet |
| [10:12:19] | <skipper_is[m]1> | For fun for the first 15 minutes.. |
| [10:12:23] | <mstenta[m]> | Yea, after 10 hours of it haha |
| [10:12:28] | <mstenta[m]> | I've done it a few times |
| [10:12:33] | <mstenta[m]> | Beautiful views though |
| [10:12:39] | <mstenta[m]> | You can see forever |
| [10:12:50] | <mstenta[m]> | Really cool when storms roll through |
| [10:13:41] | <skipper_is[m]1> | Ah that row crop field turned out to be a bunch of bales.. |
| [10:14:52] | <mstenta[m]> | That's ok too |
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