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| [22:59:15] | <lazerorca> | hi there |
| [22:59:15] | <farmBOT> | eh oh |
| [22:59:28] | <lazerorca> | I'm having issues with google maps |
| [22:59:51] | <lazerorca> | I have gotten my api key... however, I don't know where I need to put it in |
| [23:00:10] | <lazerorca> | I have my webspace hosted remotely |
| [23:03:35] | <lazerorca> | I looked through some of the support stuff... |
| [23:03:39] | <lazerorca> | 1. Generate a Browser Key: https://console.developers.google.com/apis/credentials 2. Enable Google Maps Javascript API: https://console.developers.google.com/apis/api/maps_backend/overview 3. Enable the Openlayers UI module 4. Enter the key into the Google Maps Hybrid source in Openlayers: admin/structure/openlayers/sources/list/farm_map_source_google_hybrid/edit/options |
| [23:03:52] | <lazerorca> | I'm stuck on 3. |
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| [23:37:05] | <lazerorca> | under "People" is there a way to create a user that doesn't need credentials? |
| [23:37:23] | <lazerorca> | just to view the farm? |
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| [08:46:13] | <lazerorca> | hi everyone |
| [08:46:26] | <mstenta> | lazerorca: good morning! |
| [08:46:41] | <lazerorca> | how are you doing today? |
| [08:46:47] | <mstenta> | great, how are you? |
| [08:46:54] | <mstenta> | i see you're trying to get the Google API key in place... |
| [08:46:55] | <lazerorca> | I am well |
| [08:47:09] | <lazerorca> | I actually figured it out woo hoo |
| [08:47:12] | <mstenta> | oh great! |
| [08:47:30] | <lazerorca> | I'm new to Drupal |
| [08:47:44] | <mstenta> | to answer your second question (about adding a user with view credenials) yes... just give them the "Farm Viewer" role |
| [08:47:55] | <mstenta> | they will be able to log in and see everything, but they will not be able to make changes |
| [08:48:11] | <lazerorca> | cool |
| [08:48:29] | <lazerorca> | I finally found where I could give permissions to anonymous users |
| [08:49:21] | <mstenta> | oh anonymous users |
| [08:49:31] | <lazerorca> | So if I want to use a different theme... all a theme does is just use different styling and so on right? |
| [08:49:31] | <mstenta> | yea that's possible too |
| [08:49:57] | <lazerorca> | it shouldn't break any functionality right? |
| [08:49:58] | <mstenta> | yes - drupal separates the presentation logic into the theme |
| [08:50:20] | <mstenta> | no ... although the "farm theme" that comes with farmOS aims to make a few of the farmOS-specific stuff look/work a little better |
| [08:50:32] | <mstenta> | but everything should work without it |
| [08:50:51] | <lazerorca> | nice thanks soo much |
| [08:50:55] | <mstenta> | sure thing! |
| [08:51:02] | <lazerorca> | I have one more question |
| [08:52:13] | <mstenta> | shoot |
| [08:52:36] | <lazerorca> | how would you go about recording that you direct sowed a crop into the ground. When I use "plantings" it seems to insinuate that they were transplanted because I saw there was a "movement". When I got to seedings, it seems to insinuate that I'm starting seeds in a tray. |
| [08:52:54] | <mstenta> | good question |
| [08:53:24] | <mstenta> | "Plantings" are the asset type, and "seedings" "transplantings" and "movements" are log types |
| [08:53:29] | <mstenta> | so first you create a planting |
| [08:53:37] | <mstenta> | then you add seeding/transplanting/movement logs to that planting |
| [08:53:53] | <mstenta> | so for direct seeding, you would just add a seeding log, and you would NOT add a transplanting log |
| [08:54:13] | <mstenta> | at the moment (and this is something i'm working on fixing/making easier) you ALSO need to add a movement log... |
| [08:54:30] | <mstenta> | because movement logs are what is actually responsible for saying "this planting is in this location" in farmOS |
| [08:54:47] | <lazerorca> | ahhh alrighty that makes sense |
| [08:54:48] | <mstenta> | (seeding logs JUST specify how much was seeded... but not where) |
| [08:55:08] | <mstenta> | i'm working on merging the seeding/transplanting logs with movement logs... to make that part easier |
| [08:55:25] | <mstenta> | hopefully before the official 1.0 (non-beta) release :-) |
| [08:55:56] | <mstenta> | the reason it's structured that way is because "movements" are generalized for all types of "assets" (ie: also for livestock, equipment, etc) |
| [08:56:14] | <mstenta> | whereas "seedings" and "transplantings" are just for plantings, and include more specific fields for tracking quantity |
| [08:56:41] | <mstenta> | this way, you can have plantings with EITHER seedings OR transplantings... or you can use BOTH... or you can have MULTIPLE seedings, etc |
| [08:56:44] | <mstenta> | so it's very flexible |
| [08:57:00] | <mstenta> | trying to cover any possible scenario |
| [08:57:28] | <lazerorca> | ok that makes a lot of sense now |
| [08:57:45] | <mstenta> | that being said... the movement vs seeding/transplanting thing is one of the biggest points of confusion for new farmOS users... so i'm trying to find an easier way to abstract that :-) |
| [08:58:13] | <lazerorca> | when you put it that way, it makes a lot of sense |
| [08:58:13] | <mstenta> | i have a few ideas... i need to get them into a feature request so that we can discuss with the community and compare/contrast |
| [08:58:17] | <mstenta> | cool :-) |
| [08:59:02] | <lazerorca> | So in a godan video I was watching... I saw they were using drones for aerial photography... is there a way to take that photography and superimpose your areas on it graphically? Google Earth photography is super old for my area hahaha |
| [08:59:26] | <mstenta> | yup! |
| [08:59:42] | <mstenta> | there is a module for farmOS called Map Knitter... which lets you pull in a layer from MapKnitter.org |
| [09:00:08] | <mstenta> | MapKnitter.org is a free service that lets you upload images, knit them together over a map, and then provide that as a layer that can be used in other services (like farmOS) |
| [09:00:09] | <lazerorca> | nice... I'll have to take a look at that. I have a friend who has a drone |
| [09:00:14] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [09:00:23] | <mstenta> | yea you can also use a kite... or weather balloon :-) |
| [09:00:35] | <mstenta> | drone is probably the easiest to get good photos though |
| [09:02:01] | <lazerorca> | So I have 2 major plots that I am using farmos to play around with... I am going to be doing succession plantings. Would it be best to set up my "Areas" by some sort of numbered bed system? |
| [09:02:31] | <mstenta> | that's up to you |
| [09:03:16] | <mstenta> | if you do, there's a tool called the Area Generator that can be used to make a bunch of parallel beds within a parent area |
| [09:03:34] | <mstenta> | see the bottom of this page: http://farmos.org/guide/areas/ |
| [09:03:50] | <lazerorca> | ahhhh that's exactly what I was looking for |
| [09:04:10] | <mstenta> | it's a lot easier than trying to draw parallel beds by hand ;-) |
| [09:04:11] | <lazerorca> | my question was going to be is there a parent-child relationship you can use in an area |
| [09:04:16] | <mstenta> | ah yes |
| [09:04:30] | <mstenta> | same page... above that part |
| [09:04:45] | <mstenta> | http://farmos.org/guide/areas/#organizing-areas-hierarchically |
| [09:05:02] | <lazerorca> | this is going to be a bit of a learning curve |
| [09:05:23] | <mstenta> | it takes a little getting used to at first... |
| [09:05:39] | <mstenta> | if there's anything that super confusing let me know... always looking for ways to improve! |
| [09:05:44] | <lazerorca> | my hope is to ask these questions at the beginning so I can set up everything systemically |
| [09:05:46] | <mstenta> | and if any of the documentation makes sense, the same goes... |
| [09:05:52] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [09:05:55] | <mstenta> | yea, so i'll say this: |
| [09:06:12] | <mstenta> | farmOS doesn't enforce any kind of "system" really.. other than organizing things into "assets" and "logs" |
| [09:06:22] | <mstenta> | HOW you use that is up to you... because everyone farms a little differently |
| [09:06:33] | <mstenta> | the main goal is to provide a place to put the stuff |
| [09:06:42] | <mstenta> | so you can make your own plans |
| [09:06:47] | <mstenta> | and access them from your phone, etc |
| [09:07:17] | <mstenta> | in the future, we'll be building more tools on top of that... to provide options for more high-level systematic planning |
| [09:07:21] | <lazerorca> | Is there a way to keep up with seed inventory on FarmOS |
| [09:07:30] | <lazerorca> | awesome |
| [09:07:49] | <mstenta> | there isn't really a good way to do inventory right now... but that's one of the big things i'm thinking about for 2.x |
| [09:08:02] | <mstenta> | there's some good discussion and planning taking place already |
| [09:08:40] | <lazerorca> | I saw this on a godan video and I was like this is exactly what I'm looking for |
| [09:08:41] | <mstenta> | farmOS has been slowly developing for a few years now, but i still consider it very early in its life :-) |
| [09:08:52] | <mstenta> | cool! |
| [09:09:10] | <lazerorca> | I'm trying to promote small scale farming in the area |
| [09:09:17] | <mstenta> | great! |
| [09:09:30] | <mstenta> | brb making some coffee... |
| [09:10:16] | <lazerorca> | and I occasionally give talks at the community college. It would be awesome to just be able to pull up my website and give a pulse as to what is going on and be able to give specific answers to things on the fly |
| [09:11:01] | <lazerorca> | how much seed I used or how many rows I direct seeded in a bed or plant spacings etc etc |
| [09:18:31] | <mstenta> | yea! |
| [09:18:47] | <mstenta> | all that stuff can be recorded! |
| [09:19:07] | <mstenta> | "seeding" logs (like most logs) have a "notes" field, for miscellaneous stuff |
| [09:19:17] | <mstenta> | so that's where you can jot down little details that don't fit anywhere else (yet) |
| [09:20:18] | <mstenta> | the overarching idea of farmOS is... get the data recorded... even if it isn't perfectly organized or separated into different fields at the start, at least it's there to refer back to... and as we move forward we can identify where/when it makes sense to add additional fields for common data points |
| [09:20:37] | <mstenta> | some logs is better than no logs |
| [09:20:54] | <mstenta> | and "continue improving" :-) |
| [10:10:21] | <lazerorca> | I've been keeping records in a notebook this year. Once I get it set up, I'm hoping to get all of the data down. |
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| [13:27:48] | <lazerorca> | hi there. should I do the manual update of drupal? |
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| [13:46:47] | <lazerorca> | Is there detail instructions for installing the GEOS library? |
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| [14:20:39] | <mstenta> | lazerorca: hi |
| [14:21:59] | <mstenta> | lazerorca: https://www.drupal.org/node/2736221#comment-11243999 |
| [14:23:03] | <mstenta> | here is the GEOS library website, which has instructions for installing on different systems: https://trac.osgeo.org/geos |
| [14:23:31] | <mstenta> | or, if you are familiar with Docker, farmOS has a Docker image available on Docker Hub that includes the GEOS library (and everything else you need to run farmOS) |
| [14:23:48] | <mstenta> | https://hub.docker.com/r/farmos/farmos/ |
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| [15:10:28] | <itnomad> | Hi. Sure would like to start using farmOS. I haven't used drupal in a while. I'm running into all kinds of errors with the installation. Anyway, I have pretty good linux administration skills and prefer Fedora for personal use and Centos for servers. I come from a Perl background. Also, like Python, and Ruby. |
| [15:12:18] | <itnomad> | I saw a presentation a couple of years ago about using Drupal and handing off processing chores to node.js for data intensive tasks. Thought that was pretty cool. |
| [15:14:17] | <itnomad> | I live on a small farm 20 miles east of San Antonio, TX. The owner has big ideas for the future. I noticed in the 'Farms that use farmOS' list that there are two farms in the area of central Texas that are using farmOS. Very cool. |
| [16:24:05] | <mstenta> | hi itnomad |
| [16:24:55] | <mstenta> | if you are familiar with Docker at all, you can spin up a farmOS server on that very quickly, and it includes all the dependencies automatically |
| [16:25:11] | <mstenta> | we have some documentation here: http://farmos.org/development/docker/ |
| [16:25:31] | <mstenta> | otherwise, feel free to share the specific issues/errors you ran into - i'd be happy to help debug! |
| [16:53:50] | <itnomad> | ok. Thanks. I'm setting things up on a home server running Centos 7 and am running into some issues. I'll check out the documentation you suggested and see where that leads me. For now I've got some chores in the garden I need to tend to. :) |
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