| [20:14:55] | <kadaan> | @mstenta: Added a PR for log - https://github.com/mstenta/log/pull/1 |
| [20:14:55] | <farmBOT> | kadaan: 11 hours 49 min ago <mstenta> tell kadaan PS: Would you like to add your farm to the list of "Farms using farmOS" on http://farmos.org/community/farms/ ? I'm eager to see that list grow! :-) |
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| [00:46:13] | <mstenta> | Kadaan: hi! |
| [00:46:50] | <mstenta> | Kadaan: i'm on "watch the sleeping baby duty" - so i'm awake and replying to emails/issue queues :-) |
| [00:47:19] | <mstenta> | i'm going to try to do some work on the docker stuff |
| [00:47:40] | <mstenta> | it shouldn't take much... i had already gotten it all working in the upstream drupal docker repo |
| [00:47:52] | <mstenta> | so it will just be a matter of copying/modifying |
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| [00:48:21] | <mstenta> | just need a small stretch of focus time (which is almost non-existent with the baby) |
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| [00:49:33] | <mstenta> | Kadaan: regarding the CSV export issue - i'm on the fence - i like the idea of keeping things simple in 7.x-1.x, but it does mean waiting a little while for 8.x-2.x |
| [00:50:03] | <mstenta> | if you want to play around with it for your own uses, i'd recommend trying out the Views Data Export module |
| [00:51:11] | <mstenta> | it may make sense to just leave it out of farmOS core for the time being though... to keep things simple |
| [00:58:23] | <Kadaan> | Hey. Late there... |
| [00:58:37] | <mstenta> | yep - bout 1am |
| [00:58:54] | <Kadaan> | I did a little work with docker-sync to see if it will help with the owed issues that were reported |
| [00:59:06] | <Kadaan> | I'm on the fence about whether it helped |
| [00:59:33] | <Kadaan> | My farmOS docker install is slow as dirt! |
| [00:59:40] | <mstenta> | hmm |
| [00:59:42] | <mstenta> | :-( |
| [01:00:29] | <Kadaan> | It is running two nodes, 1 mariadb (was MySQL, but upgraded to see if it help) and 1 drupal. |
| [01:01:01] | <Kadaan> | Based on the docker compose script in the farmOS docker issue. |
| [01:01:41] | <Kadaan> | There are numerous reported issues regarding OS X and docker for mac volume performance. |
| [01:01:49] | <Kadaan> | Anyway... |
| [01:02:07] | <mstenta> | i wonder if running it in a VM works better? |
| [01:02:18] | <mstenta> | obviously that's pretty redundant though :-/ |
| [01:02:32] | <Kadaan> | Do you have bad perf in docker |
| [01:02:36] | <mstenta> | curious if that resolves the issue on mac |
| [01:02:48] | <mstenta> | so far not too bad |
| [01:02:49] | <Kadaan> | For me bad perf is 2+ sec page loads. |
| [01:03:01] | <mstenta> | it is slower than vm though, yes |
| [01:03:43] | <Kadaan> | I turned on Devel to see what is going on and none of the sql calls were long polls. Though drupal makes a ton of calls, so it could be that if they are in serial. |
| [01:04:06] | <mstenta> | yea, drupal is heavy |
| [01:04:22] | <mstenta> | lots of joins |
| [01:04:45] | <Kadaan> | Interesting, farmier is much quicker |
| [01:05:18] | <mstenta> | yea, i've got farmier running on SSD drives |
| [01:05:27] | <mstenta> | so the database read/writes are much faster |
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| [01:06:19] | <kadaan_> | Is it on AWS? |
| [01:06:26] | <mstenta> | nope - Linode |
| [01:06:33] | <mstenta> | but i've been thinking about moving to AWS |
| [01:06:51] | <mstenta> | i use Amazon's email relay service already for transactional email |
| [01:07:05] | <kadaan_> | Hadn't heard of Linode |
| [01:07:06] | <mstenta> | ever use AWS? |
| [01:07:17] | <kadaan_> | All the time at work |
| [01:07:26] | <mstenta> | do you like it? |
| [01:07:41] | <kadaan_> | Yeah. It is really nice. |
| [01:08:24] | <mstenta> | i will probably move there eventually |
| [01:08:32] | <mstenta> | it seems to be the industry standard now |
| [01:09:33] | <mstenta> | i wonder if they have a fix in the works for the docker slowness issue on mac |
| [01:09:44] | <mstenta> | i wonder what it is |
| [01:09:52] | <kadaan_> | Seems like Linode is much cheaper. |
| [01:10:52] | <kadaan_> | For instance the min server on Linode is 2GB, 1 CPU, 24GB SSD @ .015 cents/hr |
| [01:11:45] | <mstenta> | yea that's one of the things Linode really has going for it |
| [01:12:00] | <mstenta> | i've been really happy with them |
| [01:12:17] | <mstenta> | all SSD too - so very fast |
| [01:12:59] | <kadaan_> | You could "maybe" get away with a t2.small which is 2GB, 1 CPU (but it assumes 20% usage and banks for bursts above https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/#burst), with the capability to add EBS @ .026 cents/hr. |
| [01:13:35] | <mstenta> | what's EBS? |
| [01:13:58] | <mstenta> | i've also heard good things about Digital Ocean |
| [01:15:54] | <kadaan_> | Elastic Block Storage == could volume |
| [01:15:59] | <kadaan_> | cloud volume |
| [01:16:27] | <kadaan_> | It is like network attached storage, but from the machine's perspective it is just another disk. |
| [01:16:39] | <kadaan_> | And it can be pretty darn fast. |
| [01:16:48] | <kadaan_> | I haven't used digital ocean. |
| [01:16:54] | <mstenta> | ah ok - does an EC2 instance not have any disk to start? |
| [01:16:56] | <kadaan_> | It was on my list to checkout. |
| [01:17:25] | <kadaan_> | EC2 instances come in a ton of "flavors" with all different specs and price points |
| [01:17:25] | <kadaan_> | http://www.ec2instances.info |
| [01:18:22] | <kadaan_> | From T2.nano with .5GB ram to x1.32xlarge with 1.9TB ram |
| [01:18:23] | <mstenta> | that's a nice comparison site |
| [01:18:37] | <mstenta> | phew! that's a lotta ram! |
| [01:18:44] | <kadaan_> | All for the low low sum or $13.338/hour |
| [01:18:48] | <mstenta> | haha |
| [01:19:24] | <kadaan_> | BTW, I started adding CSV in and it works fine. |
| [01:19:33] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [01:19:43] | <mstenta> | yea the views_data_export module is pretty easy to use |
| [01:19:45] | <kadaan_> | Just kinda sucks that the views need to be fully defined in the modules which depend on logs. |
| [01:19:58] | <mstenta> | hm? |
| [01:20:21] | <kadaan_> | At least that is how the page views are defined right now as well. |
| [01:20:35] | <mstenta> | oh you mean as opposed to them being dynamically generated? |
| [01:20:38] | <kadaan_> | Yeah |
| [01:20:43] | <mstenta> | yea, i've considered that... |
| [01:21:03] | <mstenta> | it's a tradeoff |
| [01:21:16] | <kadaan_> | It would be nice if logs, as the common component, would allow "subclasses" to tell it the fields it needs so that all the views, edit pages, etc. are taken care of. |
| [01:21:20] | <mstenta> | right now everything is just exported via features |
| [01:21:25] | <mstenta> | and there are benefits to that |
| [01:21:40] | <mstenta> | but it is more restrictive, and there is code duplication that way |
| [01:21:43] | <kadaan_> | What do you refer to by "everything" |
| [01:21:56] | <mstenta> | almost everything |
| [01:21:58] | <mstenta> | all the views |
| [01:22:00] | <mstenta> | the log types |
| [01:22:02] | <mstenta> | the asset types |
| [01:22:04] | <mstenta> | all fields |
| [01:22:22] | <mstenta> | openlayers config (maps, layers, components, controls, interactions, etc) |
| [01:22:28] | <mstenta> | basically anything that is a ctools exportable |
| [01:22:53] | <mstenta> | ie: anything that features can export, we are using features to manage |
| [01:23:08] | <kadaan_> | Like farm_log_activity.features.field_instance.inc |
| [01:23:34] | <mstenta> | yea that's the field instances used on the activity log type |
| [01:23:40] | <mstenta> | features automatically generates all that code |
| [01:24:23] | <mstenta> | so the tradeoff is: with features, all the code is automatically generated - but it means there's a good amount of code duplication there as well |
| [01:24:42] | <kadaan_> | Right... |
| [01:24:50] | <mstenta> | ie: another approach would be to write custom code that generates the same Views config, but does so specifically for farmOS Views |
| [01:25:13] | <kadaan_> | I guess I don't end up using the UIs to generate stuff too much. |
| [01:25:24] | <kadaan_> | I did when I first started added time_spent. |
| [01:25:32] | <mstenta> | you really should, for consistency |
| [01:25:37] | <kadaan_> | I modified one submodule of farm_log. |
| [01:25:54] | <kadaan_> | And then I duplicated that code across all of the modules. |
| [01:26:02] | <mstenta> | it offloads all of the decision making about code formatting to features |
| [01:26:20] | <kadaan_> | It ended up being ~5 modules |
| [01:26:33] | <mstenta> | ah yea - i saw some of those - awesome! |
| [01:26:34] | <kadaan_> | Then I figured out I should have made that change in logs |
| [01:26:37] | <mstenta> | i need to look closer |
| [01:26:46] | <kadaan_> | And I sent out a PR for that. |
| [01:26:51] | <mstenta> | but i'm going to try to wrap up this docker thing first so i can start using that for local dev |
| [01:26:56] | <kadaan_> | No problem. |
| [01:26:58] | <mstenta> | yea thanks! |
| [01:27:01] | <mstenta> | very cool! |
| [01:27:20] | <mstenta> | i might come back with some feedback after reviewing it |
| [01:27:28] | <kadaan_> | So is there anything that I can do to help migrate to 8.x? |
| [01:27:35] | <mstenta> | but i like the ideas in general - so we'll hone in on the right approaches |
| [01:27:57] | <mstenta> | maybe... |
| [01:28:19] | <mstenta> | the first steps are sort of involved... making the entity types (log and farm_asset) |
| [01:28:28] | <mstenta> | i already have a start on the log module for 8.x |
| [01:28:46] | <mstenta> | farm_asset will probably just be a clone of that, with some minor differences |
| [01:29:07] | <mstenta> | but once those are done we can start replicating all the asset and log types and all their fields in the UI |
| [01:29:17] | <mstenta> | and then export those to code |
| [01:29:28] | <mstenta> | Drupal 8 has a completely new config management system |
| [01:30:19] | <mstenta> | whereas in D7, all of these capabilities we are leveraging with the Features module to export config to code... all of that is done by contrib modules (Ctools, Features, etc) |
| [01:30:29] | <mstenta> | in D8, exportable config is baked into core |
| [01:30:39] | <mstenta> | it exports to YAML files instead of big PHP arrays too |
| [01:31:01] | <kadaan_> | Ohhhh. That is better |
| [01:31:17] | <kadaan_> | BTW I just closed all the time_spent PRs except the one on log |
| [01:31:20] | <mstenta> | and the D8 Features module already works to do the same stuff... but a lot more things are exportable (because basically everything has become a config entity in core itself - rather than sort of being hacked together by contrib modules) |
| [01:31:29] | <kadaan_> | Nice |
| [01:31:56] | <mstenta> | D8 is a HUGE step forward in terms of organization |
| [01:32:09] | <mstenta> | and it was basically a complete rewrite in OO PHP |
| [01:32:12] | <kadaan_> | So what is remaining on log 8.x? |
| [01:32:36] | <mstenta> | i forget... i have a list but i'm not sure if i published it |
| [01:32:45] | <kadaan_> | I don't see it in github. |
| [01:33:18] | <mstenta> | the log module is only in drupal.org/project/log |
| [01:33:39] | <mstenta> | i may have a github mirror in mstenta, but it's not used as a canonical repo |
| [01:33:42] | <kadaan_> | I see a bunch here: https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/log?categories=All |
| [01:33:47] | <kadaan_> | Well crap. |
| [01:33:53] | <mstenta> | that's an important thing to understand... the Log module is NOT farmOS-specific |
| [01:33:57] | <kadaan_> | I submitted my PR to github :) |
| [01:34:07] | <mstenta> | so it needs to remain somewhat general for other Drupal projects to use it |
| [01:34:15] | <mstenta> | i plan to use it in Ledger for D8 |
| [01:34:26] | <mstenta> | oh that's ok, i'll still use Github for PRs |
| [01:34:52] | <mstenta> | but bear with me... i'm a bit disorganized lately... the months leading up to the baby have been crazy |
| [01:35:03] | <mstenta> | a lot of plates were left spinning that i need to revisit |
| [01:35:46] | <kadaan_> | I'm not worries. Just want to help if I can. Seeing as we are trying to start a farm as well, I would love to have this ready when we are in full swing next year! |
| [01:36:19] | <mstenta> | farmier and farmOS (and log and ledger) are still all side projects - i also work as a Drupal dev, so that takes up a good bit of my time normally |
| [01:36:27] | <mstenta> | yea it's great to have the help! |
| [01:36:43] | <kadaan_> | Ha! I figured you must as you seem to have a lot of knowledge about this. |
| [01:36:44] | <mstenta> | i will try to get everything as organized as i can to make it easier |
| [01:37:05] | <kadaan_> | And you farm? |
| [01:37:49] | <mstenta> | yes - but we just recently moved to the place we are cultivating currently - so it is still in the process of building up |
| [01:38:02] | <mstenta> | i hope to start selling at market next year |
| [01:38:24] | <kadaan_> | That is our plan too. Our property is pretty small though. |
| [01:38:39] | <mstenta> | the place was very overgrown, so this year was mostly prep, soil tests, clearing, etc etc |
| [01:38:45] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [01:38:47] | <kadaan_> | 2.6 acres, but ~1 is completely cleared |
| [01:38:54] | <mstenta> | and you have goats? |
| [01:39:02] | <kadaan_> | Two kinder does. |
| [01:39:16] | <mstenta> | nice :-) |
| [01:39:19] | <kadaan_> | And 4 chickens. |
| [01:39:25] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [01:39:33] | <kadaan_> | They will eventually move back into the tree cover. |
| [01:39:44] | <mstenta> | i've got 10 chickens - and bees - and mushrooms - and lots of veggies |
| [01:39:49] | <kadaan_> | Nice! |
| [01:39:51] | <mstenta> | all just building up from scratch |
| [01:39:56] | <mstenta> | and maple too |
| [01:40:03] | <kadaan_> | We just started two mushroom logs. Got two more to prep. |
| [01:40:12] | <kadaan_> | Maple would be awesome! |
| [01:40:18] | <mstenta> | (hence the farm_crop, farm_animal, farm_mushroom, farm_bee, and farm_maple modules) |
| [01:40:31] | <kadaan_> | I'd love to move back to the northeast in the mid-term. |
| [01:40:35] | <mstenta> | and of course farm_equipment |
| [01:40:52] | <mstenta> | oh yea - i've been meaning to ask... so you're on the west coast? olympia? |
| [01:40:57] | <kadaan_> | Olympia WA |
| [01:41:00] | <mstenta> | oh are you from the northeast? |
| [01:41:06] | <kadaan_> | I'm from all over. |
| [01:41:14] | <kadaan_> | I was in NY from 2-6th grade. |
| [01:41:19] | <mstenta> | that's awesome - i actually got my start on the olympic penninsula! |
| [01:41:26] | <kadaan_> | Really? Where at? |
| [01:41:33] | <mstenta> | Dharma Ridge Farm |
| [01:41:49] | <mstenta> | they used to be in Chimacum WA, just south of Port Townsend |
| [01:41:54] | <mstenta> | recently moved to Quilcene |
| [01:42:28] | <kadaan_> | Cool! I was up that way a couple months ago. |
| [01:42:28] | <mstenta> | but i'm from the northeast, born and raised |
| [01:42:36] | <kadaan_> | And went back ASAP |
| [01:42:42] | <mstenta> | i love it out there |
| [01:42:52] | <mstenta> | i can't wait to take the wife and kid out someday |
| [01:42:56] | <mstenta> | she's never been to the west coast |
| [01:42:56] | <kadaan_> | But the fall colors where you are must be awesome!!! |
| [01:43:04] | <mstenta> | yea they are |
| [01:43:13] | <mstenta> | past two years have been a bit mellow though... very dry spells |
| [01:43:43] | <kadaan_> | Really. I guess that would impact the display. |
| [01:43:52] | <mstenta> | aw, i miss the dry cool summer days on the oly pen |
| [01:44:02] | <mstenta> | it gets HUMID here in CT |
| [01:44:13] | <kadaan_> | Nowhere near as humid as where you are! |
| [01:44:18] | <kadaan_> | NY too |
| [01:44:21] | <kadaan_> | Maine as well. |
| [01:44:24] | <mstenta> | yea |
| [01:44:32] | <kadaan_> | Which is where I would really like to go. |
| [01:44:36] | <mstenta> | yea I worked on a farm up in Maine too - in Pittsfield |
| [01:44:41] | <kadaan_> | Maine or upstate New York. |
| [01:44:41] | <mstenta> | Maine is great |
| [01:44:52] | <mstenta> | my dad had a piece of land up there for a bunch of years |
| [01:45:25] | <kadaan_> | Like a vacation cabin? |
| [01:45:42] | <mstenta> | sort of - he spent a long while building a homestead up there |
| [01:46:09] | <mstenta> | growing vegetables, built a greenhouse and a workshop |
| [01:46:19] | <kadaan_> | Sounds fun. Esp. to visit as a kid. Making forks, playing in the woods, etc. |
| [01:46:40] | <kadaan_> | That should have said: "Making forts..." |
| [01:46:59] | <mstenta> | when did you settle down in WA? |
| [01:47:09] | <svenn> | wa= ? |
| [01:47:14] | <mstenta> | washington |
| [01:47:28] | <kadaan_> | We've been here for about 10 years. |
| [01:47:38] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [01:47:53] | <mstenta> | know a guy names Sky by any chance? |
| [01:47:58] | <mstenta> | named* |
| [01:48:15] | <mstenta> | friend of a friend - i think he lives in Olympia |
| [01:48:19] | <kadaan_> | Nope. :( |
| [01:48:30] | <kadaan_> | We just moved from Seattle to Oly this summer. |
| [01:48:34] | <mstenta> | cool |
| [01:48:48] | <kadaan_> | Trying to escape the craziness that Seattle has become. |
| [01:49:10] | <mstenta> | i was just out in Seattle in 2012... maybe 2013? i forget |
| [01:49:16] | <mstenta> | man years... |
| [01:49:18] | <mstenta> | flying by |
| [01:49:24] | <kadaan_> | Yeah. Getting old... |
| [01:49:31] | <mstenta> | yup :-) |
| [01:49:47] | <kadaan_> | Gotta get this farm going before I have to use a walker... |
| [01:49:51] | <mstenta> | haha |
| [01:49:55] | <mstenta> | yea same |
| [01:50:12] | <mstenta> | gotta get this new kid of mine working so he can help out! |
| [01:50:16] | <mstenta> | ;-) |
| [01:50:19] | <kadaan_> | Did you work on any small, intensive farms! |
| [01:50:19] | <svenn> | what is the size of wa farms? |
| [01:50:29] | <kadaan_> | It totally depend. |
| [01:50:37] | <mstenta> | hi svenn |
| [01:50:40] | <svenn> | hi |
| [01:50:40] | <farmBOT> | hello |
| [01:50:50] | <kadaan_> | There are huge 100+ acre organic CSA farms. |
| [01:51:08] | <kadaan_> | And tiny (like ours will be) farms: <2 acres |
| [01:51:32] | <svenn> | I thought us farms were in the 10000 acres size |
| [01:51:44] | <mstenta> | the farm I worked on in WA was about 5 acres when i was there -but they've been steadily growing - they are over 30 acres of mixed vegetables now |
| [01:51:51] | <kadaan_> | Those are commercial commodity crop farms. |
| [01:52:12] | <kadaan_> | Growing mainly soybeans, corn, and beets. |
| [01:52:18] | <mstenta> | yea, most of my experience is with "small" organic vegetable farms |
| [01:52:19] | <kadaan_> | With the bulk being soybeans and corn. |
| [01:52:43] | <mstenta> | but my goal with farmOS is to keep it general and flexible enough to work on any scale |
| [01:52:50] | <svenn> | so you divide into commercial and organic, too? |
| [01:52:59] | <mstenta> | sort of... |
| [01:53:03] | <mstenta> | there are huge organic farms too |
| [01:53:26] | <kadaan_> | @mstenta: That is a huge undertaking to move the farm from one location to another. Can't imagine the work... |
| [01:53:31] | <mstenta> | how is it in norway? |
| [01:53:50] | <svenn> | we have "conventional" and "organic" |
| [01:54:01] | <mstenta> | ok yea - that's what we have |
| [01:54:14] | <svenn> | conventional being not organic but also not industrial |
| [01:54:19] | <mstenta> | oh ok |
| [01:54:25] | <mstenta> | and what is industrial? |
| [01:54:39] | <kadaan_> | We have conventional and organic. |
| [01:54:47] | <svenn> | the ones which make you sick when looking at how they work |
| [01:54:57] | <mstenta> | ah ok |
| [01:55:11] | <mstenta> | i guess here industrial and conventional are sort of lumped together |
| [01:55:26] | <mstenta> | basically just used to describe "non-organic" |
| [01:55:38] | <kadaan_> | But I would think that there is also a distinction between commodity crop farms and "sustainable" farms. |
| [01:55:46] | <svenn> | indeed |
| [01:55:48] | <mstenta> | yea |
| [01:56:03] | <mstenta> | sustainable does not necessarily == organic |
| [01:56:10] | <svenn> | we struggle as our farming culture is being rationalized by customer demands for cheaper food |
| [01:56:15] | <kadaan_> | The thing is most commodity crop farms here are "conventional", and rely on huge machines. |
| [01:56:21] | <mstenta> | yea |
| [01:56:37] | <kadaan_> | @svenn: Sounds like you are getting the place we already are... |
| [01:57:00] | <svenn> | we have been fighting the us-way for years |
| [01:57:35] | <svenn> | but solidarity among farmers break on the first greedy drop-out |
| [01:57:43] | <svenn> | then it is "Texas" |
| [01:57:49] | <kadaan_> | Don't worry, not all of us in the US think that way. |
| [01:58:12] | <mstenta> | brb need to check the baby feeding log - wife is sleeping - i'm becoming nocturnal to make sure she can get the rest she needs, but make sure the baby still eats :-) |
| [01:58:18] | <mstenta> | i should make a farm_baby module ;-) |
| [01:58:19] | <kadaan_> | Thank goodness I head that NPR story on "Texas" so I have at least a little clue what you mean. |
| [01:58:25] | <kadaan_> | Totally!!! |
| [01:58:47] | <svenn> | cool |
| [01:59:19] | <kadaan_> | So what size is a small family farm in Norway? |
| [01:59:51] | <svenn> | a small one is 6 ha |
| [02:00:03] | <svenn> | a medium one is about 25 ha |
| [02:00:19] | <svenn> | a large one is above 50 ha |
| [02:00:20] | <kadaan_> | I guess we would be tiny! |
| [02:01:14] | <kadaan_> | Do most grow a diversified crop selection, or are they focusing on 2-5 premium products? |
| [02:01:41] | <svenn> | due to climate, barley is the thing here in the middle of Norway |
| [02:02:00] | <svenn> | further south, they have wheat |
| [02:02:24] | <kadaan_> | Barley is a commodity crop there, right? |
| [02:02:32] | <svenn> | yeah |
| [02:02:37] | <svenn> | used for cattlefeed |
| [02:02:56] | <svenn> | we have to import a lot of wheat |
| [02:02:58] | <kadaan_> | That is what we are trying to figure out now. Given our space constraints, do we go wide, or focus. If we focus, how will that impact our rotation plan, pest load, etc. |
| [02:03:32] | <svenn> | I don't have cattle (almost nobody has anymore) so I can't rotate as much as I want |
| [02:03:55] | <kadaan_> | Do you farm as well? |
| [02:04:13] | <svenn> | Yeah, I do farming in my spare time |
| [02:04:36] | <svenn> | It is by the IRS classified as a 25% man-year work |
| [02:05:13] | <kadaan_> | Hehehe. Pretty sure I meet that already... |
| [02:05:35] | <kadaan_> | Here you have to sell enough to be classified as a farmer. |
| [02:06:16] | <svenn> | same here |
| [02:06:29] | <svenn> | but that limit is fairly low |
| [02:07:01] | <kadaan_> | Yeah. Here I think it is 1000. But I have to double check. |
| [02:07:15] | <svenn> | it is not possible to live off of the limit. It is just to separate hobby from business |
| [02:07:34] | <svenn> | oh, our limit would be something like 10000usd |
| [02:08:05] | <svenn> | it all has to do with VAT and accounting |
| [02:09:18] | <svenn> | Well, my daytime paywork calls. I do FPGA programming to finance my farming |
| [02:09:39] | <kadaan_> | Hehehe. I bunch of coders here, dreaming of farming... |
| [02:09:46] | <svenn> | see you around. I am on 24/7 through screen and irssi |
| [02:10:01] | <kadaan_> | See ya! |
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| [13:08:16] | <JustTB> | mstenta: is there a hangout today? i thought maybe the baby occupies you |
| [13:08:23] | <JustTB> | :) |
| [13:10:22] | <JustTB> | ah saw it in http://farmos.org/community/monthly-call/ |
| [13:10:24] | <JustTB> | alright |
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| [14:56:46] | <kadaan_> | There is a IRC chat at 1pm |
| [14:57:01] | <kadaan_> | I guess that is probably 1pm EST. |
| [14:57:32] | <kadaan_> | At least I thought there was. |
| [14:59:30] | <kadaan_> | From my end, the big thing I would like to talk about is the 8.x migration. |
| [15:00:20] | <kadaan_> | I'm itching to work on farmOS and want to start knocking down some features, but feel like it is a bit of a waste given the migration. I would hate to spend effort on a feature only to have to redo it for the 8.x migration. |
| [15:00:57] | <kadaan_> | As we talked about last night @mstenta, it would be awesome if there was a concrete list of 8.x migration tasks that we could start picking off. |
| [15:01:15] | <kadaan_> | I tried putting the log component in 8.x last night and it seems to load fine. |
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| [15:28:36] | <kadaan_> | farm_fields was not so good. Removed date and farm_asset |
| [15:29:11] | <kadaan_> | Ran drupalmoduleupgrader and was able to load the module. |
| [15:29:19] | <kadaan_> | But can't find it anywhere in the UI |
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