IRC logs for #farmOS, 2016-08-10 (GMT)

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[12:26:01]<svenn>what kind of log type is applying pesticides by tractor with sprayer? Most likely a mixture of more than one type pesticide is applied on each run.
[12:29:36]<mstenta>hi svenn
[12:29:44]<svenn>hi
[12:29:44]<farmBOT>what's up
[12:29:51]<mstenta>input is probably what you want...
[12:29:59]<mstenta>but yea, you might want to use multiple input logs
[12:30:02]<mstenta>depending on what you're doing
[12:30:22]<svenn>I am currently trying to note down what I did this year.
[12:30:31]<mstenta>cool1
[12:31:52]<mstenta>you could just record a very simple input log, and just describe what you did in the notes
[12:32:34]<mstenta>i like to use multiple logs myself, if i'm adding multiple different things
[12:33:05]<mstenta>but it's up to your preference - whatever is easier to refer back to later
[12:37:07]<mstenta>svenn: are you interested in adding your farm to this list? http://farmos.org/community/farms/
[12:37:12]<mstenta>trying to get more names on there... :-)
[12:39:22]<svenn>I do not want to reveal too much details about my farm
[12:40:09]<mstenta>ok :-)
[12:42:07]<svenn>I checked out the link. Just name and country.
[12:42:27]<svenn>I would probably get loads of support questions in norwegian
[12:43:35]<mstenta>haha nah... not that many people using farmOS yet ;-)
[12:43:58]<mstenta>although that's also the purpose of that page... to show farmers that people ARE using it...
[12:44:56]<mstenta>it would be great to include Norway on the page... it's nice to also show that farmOS is not just a tool for farmers in the United States
[12:49:20]<svenn>haven't yet decided if I am going to use it seriously. So far it looks pretty good.
[12:50:09]<svenn>I discovered that the kml logs from my gps can be imported nicely
[12:50:22]<mstenta>awesome!
[12:50:30]<mstenta>that's something i haven't tried myself yet
[12:52:21]<mstenta>how does it look in the map?
[12:52:33]<svenn>I upload the kml file in the file section and use "find using files field" in the geometry section
[12:52:42]<svenn>it looks splendid
[12:52:49]<mstenta>nice!
[12:53:07]<svenn>except that google map sattelite photos are seriously off
[12:53:10]<svenn>of grid
[12:53:23]<svenn>gps coordinates does not fit
[12:53:29]<mstenta>mmm yea... that's one of the things i want to work on for the official 1.0 release...
[12:53:37]<mstenta>i'm going to make the Google Maps layer optional
[12:53:37]<svenn>that is not your fault
[12:53:50]<mstenta>and try to find some other providers that can be included alongside it
[12:54:04]<svenn>I have been looking into using the wms service from norwegian map authorities
[12:54:26]<svenn>But I could not find where in your code I can switch from google maps to their service
[12:54:33]<mstenta>oh yea? do they provide a WMS URL?
[12:54:51]<mstenta>I could probably put together a module for you pretty easily
[12:55:07]<svenn>there are a couple of guys who have played with openlayers and wms
[12:55:10]<svenn>in norway
[12:55:12]<mstenta>cool
[12:55:27]<svenn>I'll check out some links here
[12:55:30]<mstenta>the NRCS Soil Survey layer that comes with the Farm Soil module is WMS
[12:55:41]<mstenta>that might provide an example to try
[12:56:02]<mstenta>http://drupal.org/project/farm_soil
[12:56:55]<mstenta>also, here is the feature request I mentioned, for making google maps optional and opening up the possibility of adding more providers: https://www.drupal.org/node/2772955
[12:57:06]<svenn>I find that the english pages at kartverket.no are not very detailed
[12:57:16]<mstenta>it's all doable via the Openlayers module - so that feature request is specifically to add configuration options directly within farmOS
[12:57:54]<mstenta>if you enable the Openlayers UI module, you can see all of the configuration for the maps - including the Google Hybrid layer that is used in all maps
[12:58:07]<mstenta>so you can actually play around with it without writing any code
[12:58:40]<mstenta>the one thing to be aware of is that if you change configuration, it may make it more difficult to upgrade later (if the upgrade changes the same configuration)
[13:02:14]<svenn>I think I enabled the openlayers ui module. had to fight a bit with drupal, which I do not know at all
[13:02:37]<mstenta>yea, Drupal takes some getting used to... but once you get the hang of it it's very powerful
[13:05:34]<svenn>I was trying to configure the way dates are shown. Not easy
[13:06:05]<svenn>aug 10 2016 is 10 aug 2016 here
[13:06:10]<mstenta>oh ok
[13:06:37]<mstenta>i'll add that to the 1.0 roadmap... that would be a good thing to review
[13:07:07]<mstenta>maybe i'll add a global farmOS setting for it - because i think the date formatting might be defined in a lot of different places right now
[13:09:26]<svenn>another thing I found when importing the kml data is that importing field borders use linestring out of the box
[13:09:28]<mstenta>https://www.drupal.org/node/2782195
[13:10:02]<mstenta>oh hmm... i wonder if that is how they are stored in the KML file itself
[13:10:03]<svenn>If I change "linestring" with "polygon" then clicking the geometry on the map show the popup
[13:10:09]<mstenta>i've uploaded KML files that created polygons
[13:10:23]<svenn>ok, I will check with my kml files
[13:10:31]<mstenta>yea, linestrings are annoying because you can't click in the middle of them
[13:10:37]<mstenta>you have to click the line itself
[13:10:57]<mstenta>yea - it could be that the KMLs are actually storing the shapes as lines instead of polygons
[13:11:00]<svenn>I'll check that on a field I havent converted
[13:11:20]<mstenta>if not, then the code that handles this is in the Geocoder module
[13:11:51]<svenn>I found you are right about clicking on the line
[13:12:30]<mstenta>cool - yea it helps to know that trick... but it's still annoying - better to use polygons
[13:13:44]<svenn>ok, I verified with the kml file that the perimeter is using the <LineString> tag
[13:13:57]<mstenta>ah ok
[13:14:15]<mstenta>what did you use to create the KML file originally?
[13:14:17]<svenn>this is an avmap farmnavigator gps solution I use
[13:14:23]<mstenta>ok
[13:14:30]<svenn>they provide stuff in kmz files
[13:14:35]<mstenta>cool
[13:14:48]<svenn>so I just have to extract the kml file
[13:15:08]<svenn>I haven't tried to upload a kmz file. I'll try that now
[13:15:16]<mstenta>you can upload kmz files... it will extract them automatically
[13:15:25]<mstenta>(i actually contributed that patch to the Geocoder module myself)
[13:16:25]<svenn>well, kmz didn't seem to unpack
[13:17:06]<svenn>find using file field did not result in a list of coordinates
[13:20:33]<svenn>but I'll have to extract the kml anyway to change the linestring to polygon as pressing the find in files field will overwrite the perimeter
[13:21:09]<mstenta>oops! i forgot it's time for the farmOS monthly call!
[13:21:11]<mstenta>brb
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[13:25:11]<andyGee>mike bro.. hey i work at farmers market twice a week now!
[13:25:42]<andyGee>some of the farmers are looking for a federated way to have restaurants and other clients log in to a platform and be able to search and find produce.
[13:25:45]<andyGee>and meat
[13:25:51]<andyGee>i wonder if this is possible with farmos
[13:26:34]<andyGee>i remember talking about this long time ago with you like forever ago when i had a tool business.
[13:26:45]<svenn>I forgot I have to go home and eat.
[13:27:50]<mstenta>hi andyGee ! awesome!
[13:28:12]<mstenta>i'm currently in the farmOS monthly call... brb
[13:28:21]<mstenta>talk to you later svenn !
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[13:56:01]<svenn>if you read this I can hear you
[13:57:09]<mstenta>oh great!
[13:57:44]<svenn>i muted him and cannot unmute
[13:58:32]<svenn>i am so sorry