| [07:23:56] | * mstenta has joined #farmos |
| [11:10:18] | * ferbla has joined #farmos |
| [11:18:10] | * mstenta has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| [11:23:03] | * mstenta has joined #farmos |
| [14:23:40] | * juesor has joined #farmos |
| [14:23:44] | <juesor> | OMG |
| [14:23:58] | <juesor> | my favorite drupal site has an IRC OMGOMG OM G |
| [16:15:05] | <mstenta> | hi juesor :-) |
| [16:15:39] | <mstenta> | and ferbla, hello! |
| [16:15:54] | <mstenta> | welcome to #farmOS |
| [16:16:28] | <juesor> | so how often are you here ? |
| [16:18:56] | <ferbla> | Hello mstenta |
| [16:19:35] | <mstenta> | juesor: i'm here whenever my computer is on :-) |
| [16:19:36] | <juesor> | what can you tell me about farmos that i probably don't know already |
| [16:20:01] | <mstenta> | juesor: do you have a farmOS site running currently? |
| [16:20:36] | <mstenta> | juesor: i'm sure i can think of something... but i don't know how familiar you already are |
| [16:26:07] | <juesor> | well at this point i know i need to install httpd and drupal and then install farmos on that |
| [16:26:16] | <juesor> | so what can you tell me it does ? |
| [16:28:33] | <juesor> | ohh yea and mysqld and php |
| [16:35:49] | <ferbla> | I have never installed it, and am wondering if there is anything I should know before hand. |
| [17:12:19] | <mstenta> | juesor: sorry, stepped away for a bit |
| [17:13:03] | <mstenta> | juesor and ferbla: farmOS is a web application, which means it needs to be run on a web server (like any other website) |
| [17:13:23] | <mstenta> | usually that means putting it on a hosting server that's on the internet |
| [17:13:36] | <mstenta> | but you can also install it locally, by setting up Apache, MySQL, and PHP on your computer |
| [17:14:01] | <mstenta> | you can set up all three of those pretty quickly using something like MAMP (for Macs) or WAMP (for Windows) |
| [17:14:21] | <mstenta> | juesor: technically, farmOS IS Drupal - so you only need to install farmOS, you don't need to install Drupal first |
| [17:14:45] | <mstenta> | juesor: farmOS is a "distribution" - which basically means it's a "flavor" of Drupal, that comes with pre-configured modules |
| [17:14:54] | <mstenta> | kind of like a linux distribution |
| [17:16:47] | <mstenta> | the disadvantage of setting it up on your computer is you will only be able to access it from that computer (unless you also do some fancy networking stuff) |
| [17:17:15] | <mstenta> | when farmOS is hosted on the internet, you can access it from any device (ie: laptop, desktop, tablet, phone) - and more than one person can use it at once |
| [17:17:43] | <mstenta> | if you're interested, I am going to be offering a farmOS hosting service soon: http://farmier.com |
| [17:17:47] | <ferbla> | so I see on the github page, there are all sorts of different repos, one for soil, maple, mushrooms, etc. Those are just modules we could install alongside the 'core' farmos. Correct? |
| [17:18:05] | <mstenta> | ferbla: actually, most of those module are included in farmOS already |
| [17:18:23] | <mstenta> | ferbla: so if you go to http://drupal.org/project/farm, and download the packaged release, it will include everything you need to get up and running |
| [17:18:53] | <ferbla> | mstenta: okay, that's perfect. Thanks! |
| [17:18:53] | <mstenta> | ferbla: here is a direct link to the current beta release - http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/farm-7.x-1.0-beta5-core.tar.gz |
| [17:20:17] | <mstenta> | ferbla: I decided early on to keep all the modules as separate projects and git repos, so that people have the option of installing them on an existing Drupal site if they want - but the recommended way of using farmOS is to use the official packaged distribution - that comes with it's own theme and some other nice goodies |
| [17:20:48] | <ferbla> | mstenta: aaah so you're the original developer of this? |
| [17:20:54] | <mstenta> | ferbla: yep :-) |
| [17:22:23] | <ferbla> | mstenta: very cool! I know this is a little off topic, but I have to ask. I have never written anything in drupal or wordpress, but is there a reason you picked drupal over wordpess? I normally just write straight php but have done some in laravel |
| [17:23:55] | <mstenta> | ferbla: sure, so i chose Drupal over Wordpress a long time ago - I haven't used Wordpress much since then because I can do everything I want with Drupal |
| [17:24:21] | <mstenta> | Drupal's module architecture was superior to Wordpress's plugins back then |
| [17:24:49] | <mstenta> | I can't speak for it now, because I haven't used Wordpress in a while |
| [17:25:16] | <ferbla> | mstenta: that's fair. Thanks! |
| [17:25:18] | <mstenta> | But the sort of cliche answer to that question is usually: "Wordpress is designed for blogs, Drupal is designed for everything" |
| [17:25:45] | <mstenta> | that's changed a lot, for sure, but I think it's still true statistically speaking - most wordpress sites are blogs |
| [17:26:32] | <mstenta> | ferbla: farmOS is an example of a "web application" built in Drupal - it's not a website. it is not open to the public, in other words. it provides tools and interface for a farmer to manage their operation. |
| [17:31:11] | <ferbla> | mstenta: that makes sense. I am excited to try this out. I may start one tonight, and dive into FarmOS and drupal at the same time. |
| [17:31:19] | <mstenta> | ferbla: cool! |
| [17:31:24] | <ferbla> | you said you are usually in this IRC? |
| [17:31:26] | <mstenta> | good luck! let me know if you hit any snags! |
| [17:31:31] | <mstenta> | yep, usually :-) |
| [17:32:07] | <ferbla> | Awesome, I appreciate that. If I run into anything I will surely let you know. It's getting to be about the end of my day so I will probably jump off here soon |
| [17:32:23] | <mstenta> | ferbla: if setup gets frustrating, let me know - i can set you up with a hosted site to play around with, at least to get a feel for what it SHOULD be :-) |
| [17:33:05] | <ferbla> | mstenta: Okay, awesome! I will let you know. Thanks again for all your help |
| [17:33:10] | <mstenta> | sure thing! |
| [17:33:31] | * ferbla has quit (Quit: Leaving) |
| [18:05:19] | * juesor_android has joined #farmos |
| [18:20:46] | <juesor_android> | Anyone here? |
| [18:21:10] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: i am |
| [18:21:25] | <juesor_android> | So did ferbla leave |
| [18:21:40] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: yea about an hour ago |
| [18:22:01] | <juesor_android> | He is a copy worker of mine |
| [18:22:12] | <juesor_android> | Co worker |
| [18:22:41] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: ok cool |
| [18:22:49] | <mstenta> | do you two run a farm? |
| [18:22:58] | <juesor_android> | We work for a company called acentek |
| [18:23:12] | <juesor_android> | Www.acentek.net |
| [18:23:59] | <juesor_android> | We also work for flexhost |
| [18:24:05] | <juesor_android> | Www.flexhost.com |
| [18:24:31] | <juesor_android> | We are in rural Minnesota and a lot of farms in our area |
| [18:25:00] | <juesor_android> | One of our country workers want us to setup a farmos vm for him |
| [18:25:17] | <mstenta> | cool, how did he hear about it? |
| [18:26:17] | <juesor_android> | We both are data center admins who are project developers |
| [18:26:49] | <juesor_android> | I am not sure how he heard of it but he runs a family farm and so does our boss |
| [18:27:30] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: ok, well if they are interested, i am going to be offering hosted farmOS sites soon |
| [18:27:47] | <mstenta> | i mentioned that to ferbla also |
| [18:28:07] | <juesor_android> | He sent me chat logs to catch me up |
| [18:28:31] | <juesor_android> | We would be hosting through farmos vm in our data center |
| [18:28:47] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: ok |
| [18:30:20] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: well it's fairly easy to set up - you can basically just follow the instructions for installing Drupal (but instead of downloading Drupal, you download farmOS from http://drupal.org/project/farm) |
| [18:30:38] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: here is the Drupal installation guide - https://www.drupal.org/documentation/install |
| [18:31:19] | <juesor_android> | I run a drupal site on a vm so I am used to the install |
| [18:31:24] | <mstenta> | great! |
| [18:31:44] | <mstenta> | well let me know if you hit any snags or find any bugs! |
| [18:31:55] | <mstenta> | the project is relatively young, but i'm truckin' on it! |
| [18:32:56] | <juesor_android> | So I need to ask what do you all get from farmos |
| [18:33:18] | <juesor_android> | I know nothing about farming |
| [18:33:33] | <mstenta> | juesor_android: you can map your farm (add areas to represent fields, building, etc) |
| [18:33:47] | <mstenta> | and you can record your current assets (plantings, animals, equipment, etc) |
| [18:34:09] | <mstenta> | and then record various logs on those assets (activities, observations, movements between areas, etc) |
| [18:34:16] | <mstenta> | it's for record keeping |
| [18:34:25] | <mstenta> | so you can look back at what you did |
| [18:34:43] | <juesor_android> | Do you run some farms that you thought of this program |
| [18:34:49] | <mstenta> | and also plan future tasks |
| [18:35:21] | <mstenta> | i have worked on a few farms, and i am in the process of slowly starting one at the place i recently moved to |
| [18:35:43] | <mstenta> | i am a Drupal developer as my day job |
| [18:36:31] | <mstenta> | so farmOS is a project i started to help with my farming endeavors - and also to share with others |
| [18:37:22] | <juesor_android> | Well we may be talking a lot |
| [18:37:49] | <juesor_android> | I have to go we will probably be active tomorrow here |
| [18:38:50] | <mstenta> | great |
| [18:39:04] | <juesor_android> | Have a good night. |
| [18:39:04] | <mstenta> | talk to you later |
| [18:39:07] | <mstenta> | you as well! |
| [18:39:15] | * juesor_android has quit (Quit: Bye) |