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| [10:12:26] | <mstenta> | There we go. Fixed! :-) |
| [10:12:28] | <mstenta> | hi farmBOT! |
| [11:15:37] | <andygraybeal_> | :) |
| [11:16:09] | <andygraybeal_> | mstenta, just curious, you'd rather write up your own accounting than try an integrate ERPAL accounting? |
| [11:16:30] | <mstenta> | andygraybeal_: does ERPAL have double-entry bookkeeping |
| [11:16:31] | <mstenta> | ? |
| [11:16:38] | <mstenta> | I've only seen mention of Commerce and CRM |
| [11:16:50] | <andygraybeal_> | hmmm |
| [11:16:53] | <mstenta> | those are not accounting systems |
| [11:16:59] | <andygraybeal_> | i thought it did accounting |
| [11:17:11] | <mstenta> | maybe it does... i haven't seen it |
| [11:17:13] | <andygraybeal_> | i wil look it up |
| [11:17:45] | <mstenta> | andygraybeal_: also, I started Ledger before Erpal existed... or at least before I knew of it :-) |
| [11:18:40] | <mstenta> | according to the project pages, about a year before Erpal started... |
| [11:18:49] | <mstenta> | https://www.drupal.org/project/ledger |
| [11:18:51] | <mstenta> | https://www.drupal.org/project/erpal |
| [11:19:06] | <mstenta> | the way I see it... Erpal should include Ledger... |
| [11:19:17] | <mstenta> | and FarmOS should include Ledger (and will) |
| [11:19:32] | <mstenta> | and maybe FarmOS should also include CRM... but it already includes Commerce |
| [11:19:46] | <mstenta> | Erpal and FarmOS are both "distributions" |
| [11:19:58] | <mstenta> | so they basically just include other modules... and configuration for them |
| [11:20:31] | <mstenta> | in other words... it's entirely possible for Erpal and FarmOS to share 90% of the same code |
| [11:20:41] | <mstenta> | they already do, probably |
| [11:21:11] | <mstenta> | Ledger is included in FarmOS already... but I never turn it on because I don't feel that it's ready for prime time |
| [11:23:27] | <mstenta> | it looks to me like Erpal has some features for recording expenses... maybe others... but I doubt that it is a double-entry bookkeeping system |
| [11:23:45] | <mstenta> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping_system |
| [11:25:56] | <andygraybeal_> | gotcha |
| [11:26:27] | <andygraybeal_> | hmm how can Erpal call it's self an ERP without an accounting system? |
| [11:26:51] | <andygraybeal_> | what your the guy who wrote Ledger? |
| [11:26:55] | <andygraybeal_> | very cool |
| [11:27:06] | <mstenta> | yep :-) |
| [11:27:55] | <mstenta> | it's always been a hobby project... but i still believe it has a lot of potential |
| [11:28:21] | <mstenta> | right now most people who do everything in Drupal still need something like Quickbooks for the bookkeeping side |
| [11:29:22] | <mstenta> | actually, I don't think "ERP" necessarily means that it needs to include accounting |
| [11:29:33] | <mstenta> | not real low-level accounting anyway |
| [11:30:11] | <mstenta> | definitely some resource management... but when it comes time to do your taxes, you don't look at your ERP you look at your Quickbooks |
| [11:30:32] | <mstenta> | at least that's my understanding... i can't claim to have a lot of experience... although my sister is an accountant :-) |
| [11:31:35] | <mstenta> | maybe I'm wrong... maybe ERP does include accounting usually... not sure (reading the wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_resource_planning) |
| [11:31:42] | <mstenta> | they SHOULD, in my opinion :-) |
| [11:31:53] | <mstenta> | and Erpal should include Ledger :-) |
| [11:32:07] | <mstenta> | but they would have to contribute to it's development... |
| [11:32:21] | <mstenta> | before it's really usable to them... so maybe the incentive isn't there yet... everyone loves Quickbooks |
| [11:32:53] | <andygraybeal_> | yea.. man.. i'm so tired of quickbooks |
| [11:33:15] | <mstenta> | they've got the market share... |
| [11:33:19] | <mstenta> | scratch that. they ARE the market share |
| [11:33:23] | <andygraybeal_> | yea, like ms windows |
| [11:33:29] | <mstenta> | yup |
| [11:33:35] | <mstenta> | there are open source alternatives |
| [11:33:39] | <mstenta> | ever use GnuCash? |
| [11:34:55] | <andygraybeal_> | i've looked at it |
| [11:35:02] | <andygraybeal_> | i've wanted my women to use it |
| [11:35:06] | <andygraybeal_> | but i want something web-ified :) |
| [11:35:22] | <andygraybeal_> | i thought erpal was it :) |
| [11:35:52] | <mstenta> | feel free to give Ledger a try |
| [11:35:57] | <mstenta> | i don't make any promises though ;-) |
| [11:36:03] | <mstenta> | some people ARE using it |
| [11:36:09] | <andygraybeal_> | that is cool |
| [12:42:01] | <andygraybeal_> | do you think you'll have something that will have 'crop availability' for CSA customers to see? |
| [12:42:36] | <andygraybeal_> | say, i'm a customer and i wanna peek into my bag or make an adjustment, like maybe i don't want shiitake mushrooms this week, but some extra squash. |
| [13:15:42] | <andygraybeal_> | an interesting read: https://www.drupal.org/node/554924 -- it's got comments from 5 years ago.. and then it's got comments from 5 days ago... hahaha nothing in between |
| [13:16:30] | <andygraybeal_> | i think it is exciting! i can't wait to see this stuff in action |