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[01:21:36]<skipper_is[m]1>So, what was the thoughts behind deaths?
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[09:05:10]<mstenta[m]>So basically the thought is: we need a more explicit way of defining the life span of an asset
[09:05:35]<mstenta[m]>So that assets can have a specific start and end
[09:05:50]<mstenta[m]>We can already sort of represent this
[09:05:55]<mstenta[m]>But it's more implicit
[09:06:54]<mstenta[m]>I have thought about adding a Death log... But ultimately I think it might be better to allow *any* kind of log to represent an asset's end
[09:07:08]<mstenta[m]>Eg: a harvest log
[09:07:09]<skipper_is[m]1>Archiving kind of works
[09:07:29]<mstenta[m]>Or a sale log
[09:07:43]<skipper_is[m]1>Ok, but for stock it would be good to have something explicit for ones that just died on holding
[09:08:12]<skipper_is[m]1>Sale log works if they are sold, but it might've just drowned in a ditch...
[09:08:12]<mstenta[m]>Yes, archiving is sort of the implicit way right now, and previously it was actually "active" vs "inactive" but I changed it to archived as a first step towards being more explicit
[09:08:24]<mstenta[m]>Right, and that could be an observation
[09:08:45]<mstenta[m]>Or an activity, if you don't consider it a harvest or an accident
[09:08:48]<mstenta[m]>So:
[09:08:58]<mstenta[m]>What I've been thinking about doing is...
[09:09:19]<mstenta[m]>Adding a flexible concept of "property changes" that can be associated with logs
[09:09:28]<skipper_is[m]1>Like movements?
[09:09:29]<mstenta[m]>Similar to the way movements/location work
[09:09:33]<mstenta[m]>Yes!
[09:09:34]<skipper_is[m]1>Ok
[09:09:49]<skipper_is[m]1>But the location is the land where the grass is always green and the sun always shines
[09:10:10]<mstenta[m]>So when you create a log, you could optionally set an asset's property at that time
[09:10:51]<mstenta[m]>And one of the properties could be "inactive" or "dead" or something like that
[09:11:06]<mstenta[m]>And similarly, we could use birth logs to set the birthdate
[09:14:43]<mstenta[m]>In the meantime, the way I record "deaths" is simply: add a log (eg: harvest or observation), and then archive the asset
[09:47:34]<skipper_is[m]1>Yea, and maybe a category"death" so they can be listed
[10:15:31]<mstenta[m]>yea not a bad idea
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